Pagan airstrip obstructed by trees on both ends

[Nealius]

On the immediate ends of Pagan airstrip there is a tree, plus a house on the western end, obstructing the runway. This forces aircraft to extend to the middle of the runway, which does not enable them to stop in time.

Current navaids list Pagan TT01 as in public use today. It is not abandoned. 

On Google earth there is a tree to the side of the runway on the western end, and a small structure further away from the cluster of trees and buildings that presently block the threshold of the runway in DCS. The east side appears to have no trees at all. 

[Bremspropeller]

30 minutes ago, Nealius said:

Current navaids list Pagan TT01 as in public use today. It is not abandoned. 

Somebody else wrote yesterday that it's not in use anymore according to the A/FD (Chart Supplement in new English).

This is the current issue:

https://aeronav.faa.gov/Upload_313-d/supplements/CS_PAC_20211007.pdf

It's listed as unattended and closed there.

It might be listed for emergency use.

[Recoil16]

You are right, some of the trees on the western end extend a little more south than they should be and there should not be trees on the eastern end (though with the mountain I'm not sure it makes that big of a difference).

But while Pagan is not abandoned, it certainly isn't in common use. The A/FD lists it as "closed indefinitely". Not that the state of the airfield makes any difference to where the trees are though.

Edit: @Bremspropeller was faster on the airfield state

Edited October 21, 2021 by Recoil16

[Nealius]

Anyone know when the airstrip closed? It looks like Skyvector and all the other websites haven't updated their info to match that A/FD.

Edited October 21, 2021 by Nealius

[Hoirtel]

I guess the scenery remove trigger could provide a workaround? Or a helicopter!

[Recoil16]

7 minutes ago, Nealius said:

Anyone know when the airstrip closed? It looks like Skyvector and all the other websites haven't updated their info to match that A/FD.

Good question. Can't seem to pinpoint when that remark was added to the A/FD exactly, but it seems to have been quite a while ago, all my older issues of the CS Pacific going back to last year have that remark. The reason Skyvector and others probably haven't updated their info is because nobody is sitting there going through the A/FD and copying info manually. If the FAA's machine-readable database includes the airport, it will just get used. And for whatever reason, the FAA has decided to keep the airport in the database, even though it is supposedly closed for a while now. The last inspection according to the FAA's 5010 form was in 1980! Ultimately, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept it in there so that the few pilots that probably still fly there a couple times a year just because the island needs one or another supply still have info for the airport. The "closed indefinitely" remark might just be there to cover the FAA's behind if something goes wrong, idk. To my knowledge though, almost all traffic going to or from the island is going by boat today. Ultimately the question is really, at an airport with a grass/turf strip and absolutely zero facilities beyond that, what really makes the difference between open and closed?

[Nealius]

45 minutes ago, Hoirtel said:

I guess the scenery remove trigger could provide a workaround? Or a helicopter!

Good point, I'll give that a shot. The mansion might still be in the way. 

[Hoirtel]

41 minutes ago, Nealius said:

Good point, I'll give that a shot. The mansion might still be in the way. 

It should remove buildings too

[Baltic Pirate]

Pagan has not been in use for years. I landed there with a Cherokee 6 about 23 years ago, even then it was touch and go. Not my smartest aviation decision making, but I wanted to go exploring on foot.

[Diesel_Thunder]

Pavement and concrete last a very long time in the tropics, as you don't have to worry about freezes causing issues with cracks and/or subsurface displacement. Overgrowth tends to cause most problems once it's left alone.

The airstrip on Pagan is only 1,500 feet long though. Not terribly useful for nearly all fixed wing DCS aircraft.