F-15E WIP Update Discussion

[AhSoul]

We don't know how close it is. We're all just speculating.....

[PD919]

33 minutes ago, Fromthedeep said:

Typically in the history of DCS, content creators getting a module indicated that the release is relatively close. This doesn't seem to be the case here at all. Giving access later, closer to release clearly worked well for other devs in the past. I'm not sure why Razbam would change it unless their goal is to put the hype train into overdrive.

Unless they release it by the end of the week/month, they all have it so early that it feels like mockery.  It's mainly the videos of people like GS playing around in it.  If they were dry tutorial videos, I'd feel different.  It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  If I didn't get the extra discount for pre-ordering I wouldn't after seeing it. 

[bfr]

1 hour ago, Fromthedeep said:

Then why give it out so early? If the build is truly that bug ridden and unstable, it's not anywhere near release anyway. So what, will we get a different video every day for the next 3 months until it reaches a basic, acceptable level of quality? (Assuming what you said is correct.) That's just as bad as purposely holding back a module that's already playable to generate hype.

Probably two main reasons to give it out early:

1. To test it in a slightly wider pool than in-house testers and get feedback

2. To get those people to make content and put it out there for marketing and instructional purposes. Also some of them will be making content for the module itself (missions, the manual and so on)

To turn your questions slightly on their head, if the module currently circulating with YT content makers is sufficiently featured and stable for initial public release, what possible benefit would Razbam or ED have in not getting it out ASAP?  After all, there will be a decent chunk of people who will probably end up buying it who are holding off until a date is set in stone or just after release (to gauge initial public feedback). Just sitting on it would be deferring revenue for no good reason that they could have much sooner.

Edited May 23, 2023 by bfr

[AhSoul]

I suggest everyone immediately stops watching YT and reading these forums, and do something else until the ED newsletter says The Eagle Has Landed.

Edited May 23, 2023 by AhSoul

[elchacal]

2 hours ago, pii said:

x2 +  y2 +  z2 – 3xyz = (x + y + z)(x2 +  y2 +  z2 – xy – yz <2 WEEKz)

Deal with it!

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

How effective are those videos would be?

This thread, at the time of posting, has 120.7K views

The 6 videos made by GS alone are counting 53K + 62K + 69K + 99K + 131K + 136K, I suspect many of them are watched by individual not on this forum. Judging by the view counts alone, even it may not be any way scientific, it sounds like a very good marketing tool. And they are showing mostly what works, except one I am aware of,  and they are not reviewing the product here so I would see them as some form of promotion.

[pii]

4 hours ago, Fromthedeep said:

This doesn't seem to be the case here at all.

Why not? Seems to me they are doing everything to tell us it's close, real close. Giving access to YT creators wasn't the only sign, just the first. I say it's coming soon or at least a final date. lol  

[Agg]

55 minutes ago, pii said:

Why not? Seems to me they are doing everything to tell us it's close, real close. Giving access to YT creators wasn't the only sign, just the first. I say it's coming soon or at least a final date. lol  

Growling Sidewinder did a preview video on the Strike Eagle more than a year ago, so I would't read too much into it. Hopefully it is very close, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Edited May 23, 2023 by Agg

[Letusg345]

17 minutes ago, Agg said:

Growling Sidewinder did a preview video on the Strike Eagle more than a year ago, so I would't read too much into it. Hopefully it is very close, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

He actually has done like 5 more videos with it in the last week, so it is probably very close. 

[Fromthedeep]

18 minutes ago, Letusg345 said:

He actually has done like 5 more videos with it in the last week, so it is probably very close. 

Very close could still be 2-3 months away, which may be close in terms of DCS updates but it's not what I would define close otherwise.

[Letusg345]

9 minutes ago, Fromthedeep said:

Very close could still be 2-3 months away, which may be close in terms of DCS updates but it's not what I would define close otherwise.

Ya, your probably right.

[AhSoul]

Official cold start vid is out which is also encouraging!

Edited May 23, 2023 by AhSoul

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Here we go…

[Phantom88]

Now We are getting Somewhere!!!

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

I think I would watch the RAZBAM's cold start again and again a few more times. I kinda get it is slightly different from the ones before.

[AhSoul]

Did he drop the EA date in the UFC at the end? If so it was 20th July (or just July depending on how you read it)

 

Edited May 23, 2023 by AhSoul

[freehand]

You dedicated fans miss nothing I will give you that.

[Ranucci]

7 hours ago, pii said:

x2 +  y2 +  z2 – 3xyz = (x + y + z)(x2 +  y2 +  z2 – xy – yz <2 WEEKz)

Deal with it!

A precise inequality, my friend. Can't deny math

[FZG_Immel]

59 minutes ago, AhSoul said:

Did he drop the EA date in the UFC at the end? If so it was 20th July (or just July depending on how you read it)

 

 

 

if thats the release date, im gonna be pissed

[Midair]

Me too

[Jozzie]

On 5/23/2023 at 1:46 AM, Ignition said:

It should show in the TEWS, In which video? I need to see it.

Hi, it was in this video where he is defending a phoenix but it doesn't show where the missile is coming from (I think)

I just dont understand the RWR system yet and was wanting to see if anyone had any idea. Thanks 

[Ignition]

27 minutes ago, Jozzie said:

Hi, it was in this video where he is defending a phoenix but it doesn't show where the missile is coming from (I think)

I just dont understand the RWR system yet and was wanting to see if anyone had any idea. Thanks 

You can see the missile there when it starts emitting, the small diamond.

You can see (and hear) the F-14 stt and AI red light and then you can see the probable position of the missile coming from the outside to the inside of the screen.

At 4:49 SAM lights up en you can see the missile there

Edited May 23, 2023 by Ignition

[pii]

3 hours ago, FZG_Immel said:

 

if thats the release date, im gonna be pissed

And that's before they delay it twice :)

[Thx1137]

24 minutes ago, pii said:

And that's before they delay it twice

After a tiny bit of research... Seeing Razbam said that that release date was out of their control and apparently set by ED, I wonder why you blame them for it?

I am assuming it is so ED can get their testers to approve it which is something they had mentioned before. If so it is still a huge length of time and a PITA for those of us that didn't factor that time in.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Thx1137

[Ignition]

1 hour ago, Thx1137 said:

After a tiny bit of research... Seeing Razbam said that that release date was out of their control and apparently set by ED, I wonder why you blame them for it?

I am assuming it is so ED can get their testers to approve it which is something they had mentioned before. If so it is still a huge length of time and a PITA for those of us that didn't factor that time in.

 

I would like to know how is the testing process for a new module, for example if they research how the avionics and aircraft should work? or if they request the information from the 3rd party or do they have their own SMEs.