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This DC is going to be amazing. I cannot wait as I enjoy SP stuff.

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Hi everyone,

 

Will be possible to edit/populate our AFB´s with statics with the Dynamic Campaign like we do with SP? (i have my AFB´s and Aircraft carriers populated with statics, random traffic, etc).

 

Thank you.

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6 hours ago, fagulha said:

Hi everyone,

 

Will be possible to edit/populate our AFB´s with statics with the Dynamic Campaign like we do with SP? (i have my AFB´s and Aircraft carriers populated with statics, random traffic, etc).

 

Thank you.

F.

Apart from ED, nobody knows any details about the DC, so you won't get anything but guesstimates from the community at this time.

 

My guess/expectation is, that we'll be able to edit individual DC missions, similarly like we can with Liberation Campaign. But this guess is based on nothing at all..

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55 minutes ago, sirrah said:

Apart from ED, nobody knows any details about the DC, so you won't get anything but guesstimates from the community at this time.

 

My guess/expectation is, that we'll be able to edit individual DC missions, similarly like we can with Liberation Campaign. But this guess is based on nothing at all..

I wasn´t expecting a reply from the users because we know so little about the DC, just trying my luck to see if someone of ED read this and reply.

Either the way, thank you for taking your time to reply. My expectaction are the same than yours.

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If DCS is really in financial trouble (IDK).  Releasing the Dynamic Campaign should make them some good cash. If the module is priced somewhere between $50 - $70 this will bring in some positive cash flow. Unlike the planes or terrain mods, the Dynamic Campaign is something every DCS user will benefit from adding to their collection.  It will also extend the life of the sim IMO.  I hope they keep working on it and release it sooner rather then later. 


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ED haven't released the DCE because it's not ready yet. ED's financial state doesn't make a function or module more releasable, and I'm sure they're currently working at it.

From my perspective, the benefit of the DCE being introduced isn't just the income they get from current customers who may upgrade to it - it's the potential attraction to a lot of other yet-to-be customers that may be attracted to DCS once it's released. But again, you can't release a product until it's actually ready for release so financial benefit or not - it will be released when they have it at a releasable stage. There is something very attractive about 'advancing' through a dynamic scenario than just playing individual skirmish missions. 

IDK - but I suspect they may be both finding it far more difficult to develop than they first anticipated, and also the possible rapid enhancement of certain technology such as AI and the potential it could bring for dynamic campaigns may also be pushing some things back as they may be considering implementing this ever-changing technology as well. Given that another flight sim that's currently 'back in development' that already has a DCE that people admire from years ago is being worked on again - ED have competition, so I figure they're not just working on 'another DCE' to give similar features, but they're probably exploring a far more advanced DCE to stand out. 

Another factor I suspect they could also be hitting are the same issues that us large mission designers / server admins face as well, which is performance issues with lots of units. If this is an issue for their DCE, then this would need to be addressed first before their DCE comes out. If these guesses are true, DCS may need Vulkan to be out, and multi-threading to be complete for AI, physics and server coding, before DCE can be finalized. 

As much as I hate to say it - I'm not expecting the DCE for another 4-5 years, and am planning my expectations accordingly. I do hope I'm wrong though, but in some ways when I consider what may need to be done first, I also do hope I'm right (and it's not later than 5 years). 


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16 hours ago, MVS-Viper said:

Good points.  Maybe the devs can talk to this guy.  He designed the Falcon 4 Dynamic Campaign engine. 

ED have stated from the start they want to do something different, more unique to DCS - and as far as I understand also more in-depth, which is why it's taking this long.

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2 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

ED have stated from the start they want to do something different, more unique to DCS - and as far as I understand also more in-depth, which is why it's taking this long.

Which is awesome and I wish them nothing but success.   However, it wouldn’t hurt to talk to the guy who set the standard. From his comments in the video it seems like he would be willing to share some of his expertise 👍

 

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55 minutes ago, MVS-Viper said:

Which is awesome and I wish them nothing but success.   However, it wouldn’t hurt to talk to the guy who set the standard. From his comments in the video it seems like he would be willing to share some of his expertise 👍

ED will be setting their own standard. When you look at the complexity of the sim already it will require a new standard.

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If DCS is really in financial trouble (IDK).  Releasing the Dynamic Campaign should make them some good cash. If the module is priced somewhere between $50 - $70 this will bring in some positive cash flow. Unlike the planes or terrain mods, the Dynamic Campaign is something every DCS user will benefit from adding to their collection.  It will also extend the life of the sim IMO.  I hope they keep working on it and release it sooner rather then later. 


Have they changed their stand and will sell the DCE as a module? I might have missed that.

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Have they changed their stand and will sell the DCE as a module? I might have missed that.

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I doubt it: they always said it will be a part of the DCS core and I haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise.
It would be quite silly to offer it as a paid module when the DCE is meant to attract new people into the sim 🤔

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@Raven68 ED will be setting their own standard. When you look at the complexity of the sim already it will require a new standard.

We may have to agree to disagree on this one as I believe the Falcon 4 Campaign engine was as complex if not more so than DCS. Btw as of this writing no one has developed anything close to Falcon 4’s Dynamic Campaign engine.
 

DCS does have superior graphics and multiplayer capabilities.  In addition the level of detail in radar and avionics in DCS aircraft also seem to be superior to anything else currently available IMO. 
 

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