Arnaud Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Hello All, I recently purchased a new GPU (ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 3080 Ti O12G GAMING) and a new monitor (Alienware AW3821DW - 3840x1600 - GSync 144Hz). The rest of the configuration is a little older : CPU : Intel Core i7-8700K Mobo : Asus MAXIMUS X HERO RAM : G-Skill Ripjaws V F4-3200C14D-32GVK Obviously, most of my games are running smoothly maxed out but, of course, it's a different story when it comes to DCS. DCS is installed on a M.2 SSD (Samsung 980 PRO - 1 To) My current settings and my Nvidia Control Panel Setting, see attached files. My question is : what kind of performance (smoothness, fps) should I except from my configuration (big GPU but big monitor) ? Am currently reaching 40+ fps with theses settings. And it's kinda choppy sometimes as well. I wonder how I could improve things and if it's normal with my current settings - which I suspect is the case because MSAA x4 + SSA x1.5 is a lot to ask for a 3840x1600 monitor. I've seen here and there, on this forum, a few tweaks that I'm planning to implement (like Power service off, and many other little experiment) but I want to make sure that am experiencing the same problems others have with my configuration - which is supposed to be above average. Thank's in advance for your answers. Edited January 28, 2022 by Arnaud
jurinko Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 SSLR, SSAA, SSAO absolutely off MSAA 2x Cockpit illumination off This will double your fps. Then you can set shadows high, terrain shadows default. If it runs well, try MSAA back to 4x or illumination on, which makes shadows in cockpit better. 1
Arnaud Posted January 28, 2022 Author Posted January 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, jurinko said: SSLR, SSAA, SSAO absolutely off MSAA 2x Cockpit illumination off This will double your fps. Then you can set shadows high, terrain shadows default. If it runs well, try MSAA back to 4x or illumination on, which makes shadows in cockpit better. Thank's Jurinko for your answer. So, according to you, what am experiencing is normal considering my actual settings ?
jurinko Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 You enabled some performance killing switches, especially with double SS which eat fps with not much visual gain. Yes I would say it is normal, when high-end PCs cannot run everything at max. But you can get 95% of visuals with doubled framerate if you know what to switch off. With 30x0 series, definitely try the ReBAR option (improved my performance a lot, but it runs with older drivers only). I keep the driver from 30.3.2021 because of that. 2nd thing which surprisingly helped my RTX 3070/5600x/HP Reverb PC a lot is disabling of Power service under services.msc window and reboot. Uninstall GeForce Experience, if you have it.
Art-J Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 Global cockpit illumination has anywhere between no-impact up to dozen fps impact on performance in 1440p, visual quality also differs depending on module, so I would experiment with it ON and OFF in various aircraft you fly. All the "SS" stuff, however, does always murder performance, with rather questionable improvement of quality in return. As mentioned above get rid of these as a first step, and do you really need 4x MSAA playing in 4K? i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Solution Arnaud Posted January 28, 2022 Author Solution Posted January 28, 2022 Jurinko, I have followed your advices : - SSLR, SSAA, SSAO : OFF - shadows high, terrain shadows default - Power service : OFF and things got way better. I kept MSAA X4, cockpit illumination ON though. Just tried removing the tiny bit needed. FPS increased to around 100ish. But it still lacked the "butter smooth" feeling I needed, specialy when I turn my head quickly. I followed the advice from another thread and capped the FPS of DCS to 60. My monitor is currently running @ 120Hz. And now, it feels really smooth with quite high graphics settings. In case it can help someone in the future... 2
Arnaud Posted January 28, 2022 Author Posted January 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Art-J said: and do you really need 4x MSAA playing in 4K? Hello Art-J, that is a very fair point. It is, indeed, the first dial I will turn down if I need extra FPS, and then maybe the cockpit illumination as well like you suggested. But for now the right "feeling" is back when playing, so I think I may have reached the sweet spot. Thank's for your answer
Arnaud Posted January 28, 2022 Author Posted January 28, 2022 Jurinko, I noticed that since I stopped the power service my screen doesn't shut down automatically after 10 min of idle like it used to. Do you have this same problem ?
MAXsenna Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Arnaud said: Jurinko, I noticed that since I stopped the power service my screen doesn't shut down automatically after 10 min of idle like it used to. Do you have this same problem ? You turned off the power service, so that's normal.
Bossco82 Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 Hi maxsenna, I had the privilege of checking out a 3080ti first hand last year. I personally run a 6800xt. However, if your happy at 60fps being capped while using g-sync enabled. You can pretty much turn everything on/ultra/max in DCS settings but leave SSAA=off. The 3080ti I tested with my 5600x could do those settings at 4k resolution, it maintained 60fps pretty much everywhere. Dont be afraid to experiment, SSAA is the proper fps killer. The only thing I think I changed in the NVCP was power management=maximum and G-sync=enabled.
Havremonster Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 I have a rtx 3070, i9 9900k and 64gb ram and on the Syria map going from above 100 fps and all the way down to 10 fps sertain places.
edmuss Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) If you want to bump up the anti aliasing then enable MFAA in the Nvidia control panel and set MSAA 2x in DCS, it gives almost MSAA 4x image for zero measurable performance hit over MSAA 2x Edited January 29, 2022 by edmuss Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
jurinko Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Arnaud if you see no improvement with Power service off, turn it back. Resizable BAR tech seems not to work anymore even with the old driver. Bossco cool avatar.
silverdevil Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, jurinko said: Bossco cool avatar. i was going to say. the pilot models in the F4 need to have 70s porn moustaches and look like Olds. AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
Arnaud Posted February 2, 2022 Author Posted February 2, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 4:38 PM, edmuss said: If you want to bump up the anti aliasing then enable MFAA in the Nvidia control panel and set MSAA 2x in DCS, it gives almost MSAA 4x image for zero measurable performance hit over MSAA 2x Thank's Edmuss for the tip. I may try to use it at some point. On 1/29/2022 at 6:38 PM, jurinko said: Arnaud if you see no improvement with Power service off, turn it back. Resizable BAR tech seems not to work anymore even with the old driver. Bossco cool avatar. Yeah, I turned the service back on, but didn't see any noticable difference when it was off. Thank you all for your feedbacks.
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