OpenXR Guide - Deprecated - This time for real (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)

[edmuss]

This has been updated to release 0.6, I've repacked it again for use in OVGME as above

I believe that this version eliminates the centreing and black OCXR_WMR_ACC_v0.6.zipscreen issues.

[M1Combat]

2 minutes ago, Marco Schaap said:

I'll try this out, thanks!

You might also need to clear your environment data from Windows Mixed Reality Portal and then NOT set a center in there either.  It appears to me that OpenXR seems to MAYBE define it's own center differently that WMR or SVR...  and DCS works with SVR way.

Super cool Edmuss :).  I'll give it a shot when I get home...  About 6.5 hours or so...

[edmuss]

You can now set a seated position in the wmrp environment without issue, the above release should fix the problem
Starting wmrp and then dcs whilst having the headset unable to recognise the environment data (covering the cameras) has been 100% perfect for me.

[Nodak]

What are the two extra files in the OBS pugin folder for?  FS 2020?

[Sr.]

Nice... I'll try implementing this evening.

[edmuss]

32 minutes ago, Nodak said:

What are the two extra files in the OBS pugin folder for?  FS 2020?

I have no idea, not even sure where they're meant to be but they've not appeared to have broken anything by leaving them where they are!

[7Coolhand]

I run my Reverb G2 in 60Hz and I can’t see any flickering that many complaints about.

Does OpenXR support 60Hz mode for Reverb?

[ColinM9991]

Tried it out, simply amazing.

I'm going to see what options are available to subscribe to the releases and automatically create the OvGME compatible archive every time a release is pushed to the GitLab repo.

I'll probably do my stuff on GitHub, will share a link here when I'm done - if somebody doesn't first beat me to it.

[edmuss]

17 minutes ago, 7Coolhand said:

I run my Reverb G2 in 60Hz and I can’t see any flickering that many complaints about.

Does OpenXR support 60Hz mode for Reverb?

Yes it does but in this case it doesn't give such a smooth ride as 90hz for the following reason.

With steamvr, if the GPU can't reach refresh rate then it renders at half rate and generates synthetic frames that are then interpolated with the rendered frames. This gives the appearance of it being rendered at refresh rate and being synced to head motion so it's smooth.

With openxr, if the GPU can't reach refresh rate then it forces the renderer to wait for accurate tracking data before displaying the frame. It will jump down in fractions of the refresh rate so 90hz will jump down to 45, then 30 and finally 22. This means that the display is much smoother even without smoothing turned on.

The fractional steps for 60hz are 30, 15, 12 FPS so unless you can guarantee being able to get more than 60 fps you're effectively rendering at 30 without smoothing which isn't all that pleasant.

You can also turn smoothing on with openxr but for some reason I currently get loads of visual artifacts, much more than I ever had with steamvr.

I'm also immune to the 60hz flicker, in steamvr 60hz smoothing on is definitely the way to go to maximise quality on lower hardware. In openxr I'm 90hz all the way.

[winghunter]

2 hours ago, edmuss said:

This has been updated to release 0.6, I've repacked it again for use in OVGME as above

I believe that this version eliminates the centreing and black OCXR_WMR_ACC_v0.6.zip 2.59 MB · 21 downloads screen issues.

I had a black screen, updated to 0.6 and now everything works fine without reboot

[M1Combat]

@edmuss

Would you do me a favor with this .6 release if you have the Apache...

Start DCS, Do NOT hit the recenter keybind.  B/S the IHADDSS and check accuracy.

Press the DCS re-center keybind, re-boresight the IHADDSS, Check accuracy.

I ask because so far I've been able to make it all work but ONLY before I recenter the headset.  Once I recenter the headset in DCS using the DCS keybind...  It breaks the IHADDSS Boresighting procedure.  

Every other airframe works fine because there's no boresighting system like in the Apache.  

[Arew]

hey, looks like a cool project - but i am getting an error on starting dcs and the discord link is expired.  any chance for a new link? 



edit: posted error just in case someone knows

Edited March 22, 2022 by Arew

[edmuss]

19 minutes ago, M1Combat said:

@edmuss

Would you do me a favor with this .6 release if you have the Apache...

Start DCS, Do NOT hit the recenter keybind.  B/S the IHADDSS and check accuracy.

Press the DCS re-center keybind, re-boresight the IHADDSS, Check accuracy.

I ask because so far I've been able to make it all work but ONLY before I recenter the headset.  Once I recenter the headset in DCS using the DCS keybind...  It breaks the IHADDSS Boresighting procedure.  

Every other airframe works fine because there's no boresighting system like in the Apache.  

I'm afraid that I don't have apache so can't test it directly
Pretty sure @nikoel does though so perhaps he might be able to help find the problem/cause?

[M1Combat]

Maybe...  

I'll test the .6 release later but this only started happening after installing the OpenXR stuff.  Aside from this one thing though...  SUPER sweet.  Very smooth and better clarity.  Not much change in framerate but WAY better smoothness.

[nikoel]

Guide has been updated to reflect the new changes 

Update OpenComposite to 0.6

Old files removed. New ones attached

Removed deprecated instructions on how to avoid black screen and recentering being wonk

(Not yet tested by me as I will be out of my office for the next 10hrs)

[Sr.]

@ OP

 

Holy *$^#!!  

 

Just finished the setup. I can't even imagine DCS could look this incredible in VR!!

I do sorta miss motion smoothing, though it's not as necessary at Apache speeds.

One issue, SteamVR still launches anytime I start WMR, even though I set it not to in WMR settings. I just close it and go, but is there something else I need to do?

I do NOT miss having to load the other mods either.

[Habu-z]

47 minutes ago, Arew said:

hey, looks like a cool project - but i am getting an error on starting dcs and the discord link is expired.  any chance for a new link? 



edit: posted error just in case someone knows

 

I cleared this up by doing a clean/repair then a reboot. Also refreshed everything in ovgme.

[Sr.]

Only issue I have is, during flight I can just make out the right edge of the LCD in the left eye, about 2 o'clock.

I tried the DCS cross eye tool, no luck. I wonder if there's some where in the .ini to fix?

[nikoel]

2 minutes ago, Sr. said:

Only issue I have is, during flight I can just make out the right edge of the LCD in the left eye, about 2 o'clock.

I tried the DCS cross eye tool, no luck. I wonder if there's some where in the .ini to fix?

Use my mask or create your own

[ColinM9991]

2 hours ago, ColinM9991 said:

Tried it out, simply amazing.

I'm going to see what options are available to subscribe to the releases and automatically create the OvGME compatible archive every time a release is pushed to the GitLab repo.

I'll probably do my stuff on GitHub, will share a link here when I'm done - if somebody doesn't first beat me to it.

Update. I have a Github repo that is now building the correct structure for OvGME also with a version.txt file. 

Unfortunately, gitlab doesn't have a great API so I'm doing some things manually. 

I'm going to update the code some more to be a bit more resilient, should hopefully have something to share at the weekend. 

[Arew]

24 minutes ago, Habu-z said:

I cleared this up by doing a clean/repair then a reboot. Also refreshed everything in ovgme.

weird, i did a clean/repair before installing but doing another and reinstalling and dcs launches now.  cheers!

[javelina1]

5 hours ago, edmuss said:

This has been updated to release 0.6, I've repacked it again for use in OVGME as above

I believe that this version eliminates the centreing and black OCXR_WMR_ACC_v0.6.zip 2.59 MB · 35 downloads screen issues.

everything worked like a champ with my G2 setup.  thank you, thank you!! 

Thank you OP!!!

Edited March 23, 2022 by javelina1
thanking OP too!

[javelina1]

2 hours ago, Sr. said:

@ OP

 

Holy *$^#!!  

 

Just finished the setup. I can't even imagine DCS could look this incredible in VR!!

I do sorta miss motion smoothing, though it's not as necessary at Apache speeds.

One issue, SteamVR still launches anytime I start WMR, even though I set it not to in WMR settings. I just close it and go, but is there something else I need to do?

I do NOT miss having to load the other mods either.

I also had WMR set to not launch SteamVR, yet it still did.

for me, it was this (not putting in the new openvr.dll)

 

Edited March 23, 2022 by javelina1

[Sr.]

2 hours ago, nikoel said:

Use my mask or create your own

Using yours (I think)

I'm not sure which of these would effect the left lens, 2-3 o'clock position.

It's like that "view" needs to slide to the right just a touch.

;Hidden area mesh fix for G2, may work on other headsets
enableHiddenMeshFix=enabled
projEye0Top=-1.050609
projEye0Bottom=1.054611
projEye0Left=-1.162030
projEye0Right=0.988473
projEye1Top=-1.043035
projEye1Bottom=1.059019
projEye1Left=-0.989877
projEye1Right=1.156349

[winghunter]

typically Eye0 is right, Eye1 is left