Callsign JoNay Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 I'm sure this has probably been brought up on the forum before, but I couldn't find a thread about it. Is the F-14 supposed to shoot all the missiles off the same side of the jet in this way? Is this how it was in real life? I know you can somewhat manage it by pressing the weapon select switch on the sidewinder before shooting, but at best you're still left with the two heaviest missiles on the same side of the jet.
DSplayer Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Callsign JoNay said: I'm sure this has probably been brought up on the forum before, but I couldn't find a thread about it. Is the F-14 supposed to shoot all the missiles off the same side of the jet in this way? Is this how it was in real life? I know you can somewhat manage it by pressing the weapon select switch on the sidewinder before shooting, but at best you're still left with the two heaviest missiles on the same side of the jet. IIRC it fires from left to right, back to front. And since you had 2 Sparrows (which fired the left one first) and then you fired 3/4 Phoenixes, you ended up with your last missiles on the right side of your plane. 1 Discord: @dsplayer Setup: i7-8700k, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB 3066Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
Callsign JoNay Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 Right, I know what happened. I'm just surprised Grumman couldn't program something into the system to adjust the sequence so the plane stays as balanced as possible. Like if the crew shoots a Sparrow first, have some programming that changes the Phoenix order so it deploys from right to left. Or an even easier solution, just program the Phoenix to deploy left to right, and the Sparrow to deploy right to left. Problem solved. Just trying to confirm if this is really how the Tomcat was, or if it's something still being worked on by HB.
Callsign JoNay Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 So helpful. The question is... Is this intended/realistic behavior, or not? Im looking for an answer from HB, or someone in the know.
RustBelt Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 As it lists in NTRP 3-22.4-f14ABD - Store limitations(appendix A): AIM-7 Default launch sequence is 1B, 8B, 4, 5, 3, 6 AIM-9 Default Launch Sequence is 1A, 8A, 1B, 8B AIM-54 Default Launch Sequence is 1B, 8B, 4, 5, 3, 6 With 3, 6 being the front row and 4,5 being the back row. So you shot 1 AIM-9 1A One AIM-7 1B and 3 Aim-54 4, 5, 3 Leaving you with an AIM-54 on 6, an AIM-7 on 8B and an AIM-9 on 8A They do note "Default Launch Sequence is affected by MAS/MOAT degrades and Missile model. For Details to paragraph 33.2.7.2 of NAVAIR 01-F14AAA-1A" So if you have the magic -1A nobody can get their hands on you could learn more, but Missile Auxiliaries Subsystem and Missile On Aircraft Test are in the "not modeled BIT test sequence for the RIO" category. You have a lot of confidence in 1969 tape based first IC computer technology to think the WCS in the tomcat would have the overhead to worry about keeping the missiles "balanced". 5
Naquaii Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 The missile launch sequence is set and doesn't change unless the MOAT assesses a missile as degraded in which case it might be dropped all together or launched last. The remaining payload in the OP photo isn't that unbalanced as the fuselage stations are so close to center line as to matter little. 5
Callsign JoNay Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 So correct as is. Thanks for the verification guys.
Zaphael Posted July 27, 2022 Posted July 27, 2022 Load balancing missiles? Maybe Tomcat don't care. RIO does when dropping bombs maybe?
draconus Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Zaphael said: RIO does when dropping bombs maybe? Bombs are almost always under belly so no issue here and for fuselage-mounted A2G stores, the default sequencing is 4, 5, 3, 6 (back: left-right; front: left-right). Edited July 28, 2022 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
henshao Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 F-15 also launches missiles in a similar fashion (IRL right sparrows then left sparrows) so I assume this is perhaps a drag concern (2 missiles carried in line pay drag penalty only once)
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