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2 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

Well to those who wanted C-130J. ED+3rd party dev announced DCS: C-130J . Have no clue if this one will have any weapons short of flares and chaff.

If we get the AC-130 that would be freaking awesome 

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Even with quick dumb math. If a user has all existing and known upcoming modules and terrains , campaigns excluded, he or she is looking at over a $1200 (USD) spent on what started as free combat simulation game. Probably close to $1500.

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1 minute ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

Even with quick dumb math. If a user has all existing and known upcoming modules and terrains , campaigns excluded, he or she is looking at over a $1200 (USD) spent on what started as free combat simulation game. Probably close to $1500.

So?

 

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AD-1 Skyraider is an important aircraft , serving through most of Cold War in many theaters in multiple services of multiple flags. I hate taildraggers, but I get this one for its Vietnam COIN work.

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So?

 

SO? Is passive aggressive snark. Thus has no answer.

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1 minute ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

SO? Is passive aggressive snark. Thus has no answer.

Ha! The entirety of this thread, started by you, is one massive act of passive aggression, with that costing exercise the pinnacle. 

Excuse me for calling you out using your own modus operandi.

Thats called irony by the way.

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8 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

Even with quick dumb math. If a user has all existing and known upcoming modules and terrains , campaigns excluded, he or she is looking at over a $1200 (USD) spent on what started as free combat simulation game. Probably close to $1500

For me, it' closer to $2000, but who's counting 🙂 

From a Business perspective, there are few games that can beat such a great selling proposition. A game that potentially generates add-on sales in excess of 1k dollars is rare indeed and is an achievement by itself. 

From a gamer perspective, this still pales in comparison to what many of us spend in hardware to play it: High-end joysticks (my HOTAS/Rudder alone is >800, not to mention the chair mounts etc), VR Set, Computer that can drive VR. Plus the strain it induces on your loved ones when you go chasing runway instead of spending time with them.

Having said that, my friend loves Skiing. Taking his family skiing (we live in Switzerland) costs in excess of 5K. Each season. DCS is dirt cheap in comparison. So put on your happy face: you have a very affordable hobby. 🙂 

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20 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

Now we are gettting G-91R. Basically an advanced Gen 3 version of Sabrejet. Which is great! Its an interesting Cold War type, was used by Europeans for a long time. Into mid 1990's.

 

In certain features its simpler than the sabre jet. IT doesn't even have any Air to Ground computer for delivery,  no radar aided gunsight. Its T/W ratio is about the same as the sabre. but lower top speed.

 

This will essentially be bit smaller  F86 with a fixed gunsight., with modestly better Air to ground payload options.. the luftwaffe version (R3) will have most appeal due to  least having 30mm defa cannons, and not 50 cal ticklers.

 

Frankly Its not surprising that some European nations like greece backed out of buying G91's and instead opted for F5A's, since by the time it was operational, F5 was a more viable option 

 

 

 

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G-1R was a European project , for NATO, that was cheap, built in large numbers, and could operate from rough and damaged fields. It was used as AG. Early models were evaled by US Army as close support and AFAC (Army) in 1961 . Then US Army got out of business of operating fixed wing tactical jets, and USAF declined to pursue G-91R. By no means an F-8 Crusader, the little Fiat carried 4 cannons, and rocket pods. It was  a gunfighter. I may check it out. I doubt I would pay $80 for module. But then I told myself I would not get F-5. But then F-5 was on sale for $24 and I got it, and liked it, have no regrets. If I am away from DCS for weeks, due to work or life or stress, or high end fixed wing module. I do some basic solo flights in F-5E first. In fact, even with dedicated trainers in DCS, I still 1st recommend that new DCS players get competent in F-5E VFR and daylight attack, before dedicating serious time to higher end modules like AV-B/NA (LOVE IT!), F/A-18C(like it). F-5 is T-38 of DCS. If G-91R brings simple daylight strafe with guns and rockets and low tech visual ACM type, faithfully recreated, then its something to look forward to. 

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20 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

Even with quick dumb math. If a user has all existing and known upcoming modules and terrains , campaigns excluded, he or she is looking at over a $1200 (USD) spent on what started as free combat simulation game. Probably close to $1500.

Don't forget the peripherals - HOTAS, VR, Simpit, background reading, perhaps even a dedicated PC or two.  I'm sure there are users who have spent five figures on this 'free game'.

My point is though, nobody is forcing anyone to buy all or even any of the modules.  Pick whichever one(s) which take your fancy, or don't.  

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