Ferski Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 The trick that you didn´t know when you started with the sim but now is vital, that procedure that you did wrong and you found the proper way, the hardest thing you had to learn and how you did it, those little things not well documented that you learned by trial and error or researching, that hotkey or switch you always forgot and could have save you loads of hours.... 1
Pizzicato Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) The trick that you didn´t know when you started with the sim but now is vital, that procedure that you did wrong and you found the proper way, the hardest thing you had to learn and how you did it, those little things not well documented that you learned by trial and error or researching, that hotkey or switch you always forgot and could have save you loads of hours.... Learn how to properly use the trim feature. It's pretty much the single most important feature of the sim. The correct steps are: - Push/Pull/Turn the cyclic (joystick) until you've got the helicopters nose pretty much where you want it - Keep the stick in that position - Hold down the Trim button - Keep the Trim button held down - Release the cyclic (joystick) back to its neutral position - Release the Trim button - Wait for a second or two to see if the helicopter is really doing what you want it to and repeat this process if you need to slightly refine the trim. - Repeat after change of attitude (not altitude) ;) It sounds monotonous, but it quickly becomes second nature and is pretty much the only way to give yourself smooth, seamless control over the aircraft. Edited January 5, 2009 by Pizzicato i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S
einar-st Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 It's actually the trim button, not the reset trim button. And the way I do it; I press and release the trim button and center the joystick and rudder instantly afterwards (I think it gives you about half a sec or something to do this).
AlphaOneSix Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Yes, default is 0.5 seconds to center the controls. That time is configurabe in a file somehwre, but I forget which one off the top of my head.
Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 The best way to learn cold startup procedures (worked for me anyway)... I made a video using fraps of the cold "fast startup" tuturial. I then put the video on a laptop and watch it as I practiced my cold startup procedures in game (the great thing about video vs. the actual tutorial is that you can pause/rewind/replay). After about 5 iterations, I have become proficient in cold statup procedures.....
d0ppler Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Make sure you have programmed your UV-76 flare program before you enter combat and map the "start program" button on your HOTAS. ;) But understanding the trim function is the key to be a good Ka-50 pilot. A-10C, AV-8B, Ka-50, F-14B, F-16C, F-5E, F/A-18C, L-39, Mi-8, MiG-21, MiG-29, SA34, Spitfire, Su-27, Su-33, UH-1H
Peyoteros Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Fly, fly, fly... "Eagle Dynamics" - simulating human madness since 1991 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ۞ ۞
ObvilionLost Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) The best way to learn cold startup procedures (worked for me anyway)... I made a video using fraps of the cold "fast startup" tuturial. I then put the video on a laptop and watch it as I practiced my cold startup procedures in game (the great thing about video vs. the actual tutorial is that you can pause/rewind/replay). After about 5 iterations, I have become proficient in cold statup procedures..... The best way is to watch the cold start tutorial in DCS and as you watch it, write down all the steps on piece of paper. Not only it will leave you a cheat sheet, but also you will memorize it better when you are writing them down. :joystick: Also never hold down trim button when you are returning cyclic to neutral position!!! Pizzicatos tip on trim is incorrect. Edited January 5, 2009 by ObvilionLost [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic5472_1.gif[/sIGPIC]:joystick: Win 10 | i5-6600K | 16GB DDR4 RAM | MSI Radeon RX480 | TrackIR 5 | Saitek X52 Zeus Gaming Community
GGTharos Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Watch the Producer's notes. Watch the in-game training tracks. Read the Manual. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pizzicato Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 It's actually the trim button, not the reset trim button. Good catch! Thanks. :) i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S
LIONPRIDE Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 . If you join a MultiPlayer game and you see player : Fatal1ty in game ... RUN ! ! ! :joystick: . - - - - - - - - TO FLY IS HEAVEN. TO HOVER IS DIVINE - - - - - - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Oh, is he still tking? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Boberro Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Fatal1ty is tking? Oh bad boy :D Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Suvv Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 For every change of a pitch, roll, yaw etc, however small, trim, trim and trim again.
LIONPRIDE Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Oh, is he still tking? Nah ... it was a Head-2-Head scenario. ... :joystick: . - - - - - - - - TO FLY IS HEAVEN. TO HOVER IS DIVINE - - - - - - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MetaMarty Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 During the whole first campaign I believed the Abris cursor was way off from the cursor on the HUD. Turned out that the system is using the laser designator to find the distance and uses that distance to calculate the position of the Abris cursor. :doh: So to sum it up: If the Abris cursor does not match the HUD cursor, press to lock button on the cyclic to do a distance measurement.
d0ppler Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 ... So to sum it up: If the Abris cursor does not match the HUD cursor, press to lock button on the cyclic to do a distance measurement. I believe you mean the lock button on the Collective ? A-10C, AV-8B, Ka-50, F-14B, F-16C, F-5E, F/A-18C, L-39, Mi-8, MiG-21, MiG-29, SA34, Spitfire, Su-27, Su-33, UH-1H
JDski Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 The best way to learn cold startup procedures (worked for me anyway)... I made a video using fraps of the cold "fast startup" tuturial. I then put the video on a laptop and watch it as I practiced my cold startup procedures in game (the great thing about video vs. the actual tutorial is that you can pause/rewind/replay). After about 5 iterations, I have become proficient in cold statup procedures..... I did this last night myself. I also took notes. But it seems some of the keyboard commands in the tutorial are not accurate or I may need to recheck my notes or compair the key commands to what I have in my setup and make changes. There is also a different cold start up video in the files section to download. However this is not quite as easy to follow as the tutorial as it doesn't have notes, and the cursor dissaprears in the video often, so it gets hard sometimes to follow what where he clicking. Attached my notes from the tutorial. Maybe someone can spot something that is inaccurate.KA-50 Accelerated Startup Procedures.doc
d0ppler Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Search the forum and you will be rewarded : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35571 A-10C, AV-8B, Ka-50, F-14B, F-16C, F-5E, F/A-18C, L-39, Mi-8, MiG-21, MiG-29, SA34, Spitfire, Su-27, Su-33, UH-1H
71st_Mastiff Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 . If you join a MultiPlayer game and you see player : Fatal1ty in game ... RUN ! ! ! :joystick: . Man can't go anywhere with out that guy TKing in every game Seen him in IL2 doing the same thing. "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || Z10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/ G502LogiMouse || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
JDski Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Search the forum and you will be rewarded : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35571 I figured there were notes already out there, but I knew it wouldn't hurt to make my own to help me get it down. Thanks for the link.
Madman777 Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 #1. If your laser stops working suddenly and you can't lock anything up - switch to guns - then back ATG - and it should work again. #2. If you see an incoming missile - turn 90 degrees away and dive while dropping flares - tactic seems to work again most SAM threats. #3. Use low rate of fire setting for cannon or you will run out of ammo really quick. #4. Practice flying in a mission with no threats, practice a lot! I have some more but i'm at work - can't remember all that i wrote down i7-12700k, 32GB Ram, RTX 3060 12GB, TrackIR 5, Lots of SSD Space, etc etc DCS World - All the cool modules
TheMoose Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 RCtrl+Enter to see you’re trimming setting. I find it usefull. Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
Nomad Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Do use auto turn to target function often. Lets you concentrate on the fighting rather than steering the helo all the time to keep your nose on target. [brag]European dogfight champion 2006[/brag]
einar-st Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Do use auto turn to target function often. Lets you concentrate on the fighting rather than steering the helo all the time to keep your nose on target. Map it to your HOTAS and it quickly becomes second nature. :)... Handy indeed.
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