Shiroka Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 For those of us who fly in VR, many of us have been using VAICOM to control Jester without the RIO wheel (which is great but kind of breaks immersion). VAICOM has been abandoned for months and it appears that 2.8 was the final death knell. It’s a real shame to lose this functionality and personally I don’t want to go back to the wheel in VR. Would it be possible to make the full Jester command set mappable to keybinds (as you guys have done with the Mission Editor values, which is awesome) so that those of us who want to continue using VA to talk to Jester can create our own profiles and continue to do so? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Shiroka said: For those of us who fly in VR, many of us have been using VAICOM to control Jester without the RIO wheel (which is great but kind of breaks immersion). VAICOM has been abandoned for months and it appears that 2.8 was the final death knell. It’s a real shame to lose this functionality and personally I don’t want to go back to the wheel in VR. Would it be possible to make the full Jester command set mappable to keybinds (as you guys have done with the Mission Editor values, which is awesome) so that those of us who want to continue using VA to talk to Jester can create our own profiles and continue to do so? We will do that, once we are done with the Jester overhaul. This will still take a bit unfortunately. But as things may likely still change, doing it now and changing it again later would break your profiles yet again, hence we opt to wait with that for now. 6 4 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiroka Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, IronMike said: We will do that, once we are done with the Jester overhaul. This will still take a bit unfortunately. But as things may likely still change, doing it now and changing it again later would break your profiles yet again, hence we opt to wait with that for now. Awesome, thanks for the fast reply. Really glad to know it is on the cards for the future! From a personal perspective I would rather deal with a broken VA profile every few updates than not have that functionality for months, but I do understand the devs decision (and of course don’t know the full situation)! Thanks again. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMclane Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shiroka said: Awesome, thanks for the fast reply. Really glad to know it is on the cards for the future! From a personal perspective I would rather deal with a broken VA profile every few updates than not have that functionality for months, but I do understand the devs decision (and of course don’t know the full situation)! Thanks again. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 We will do that, once we are done with the Jester overhaul. This will still take a bit unfortunately. But as things may likely still change, doing it now and changing it again later would break your profiles yet again, hence we opt to wait with that for now.That's awesome! Thank you guys in advance!I do have an additional request to this though.Would it be possible to have the Jester wheel hidden if you execute keybinds?One of the absolutely great features of VAICOM for immersion, was that it didn't show the Jester wheel, hide the radio menu. Disable "players voice", and hide on screen text. Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, Shiroka said: Awesome, thanks for the fast reply. Really glad to know it is on the cards for the future! From a personal perspective I would rather deal with a broken VA profile every few updates than not have that functionality for months, but I do understand the devs decision (and of course don’t know the full situation)! Thanks again. We'll overthink it again, but seeing how our plate is full atm, I would cautiously say please don't expect it before the end of the year. 2 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: That's awesome! Thank you guys in advance! I do have an additional request to this though. Would it be possible to have the Jester wheel hidden if you execute keybinds? One of the absolutely great features of VAICOM for immersion, was that it didn't show the Jester wheel, hide the radio menu. Disable "players voice", and hide on screen text. Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk We can look into that, of course. 4 2 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callsign JoNay Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, JohnMclane said: +1 +2. I think most of us would prefer to find work arounds to enjoy the module the way we're accustomed to now, and have to change profiles after an overhaul, than to shelf the Tomcat until the overhaul is complete. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santa8086 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Amazing. Thank you so much for considering this. Much needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawk1971 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) @IronMike Something just hit me (figuratively ) : Assuming that HB and True Grit are going to implement DVI on the Eurofighter, couldn't that underlying voice-recognition technology potentially be used for Jester and Jester's Dad (in the Phantom), as well as Jester's Cousin (Intruder)? I mean, giving verbal commands to your RIO basically is "proto-DVI". Because even if some of the tech savvy people over at the VAICOM Discord find a way to undo what ED has decided to plague us with, I fear this will not be a long-term solution. Edit: overtaken by recent, very promising events. Thanks Vaicom Discord community, and thanks @Hollywood_315 for releasing it under GPL! Still, IMO a native solution directly from the dev would be preferable for these module-specific inter-cockpit comms, because it could be much more "custom" and streamlined. Oh, and could you make the Eurofighter respond to my voice inputs with "By your command!" ? Edited October 31, 2022 by Jayhawk1971 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigayot228 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 5:47 PM, IronMike said: We will do that, once we are done with the Jester overhaul. This will still take a bit unfortunately. But as things may likely still change, doing it now and changing it again later would break your profiles yet again, hence we opt to wait with that for now. Grazie mille! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefhard Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Awesome news on the matter! Thank you for reacting so quickly! Great outlook on the matter! Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFGross Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunaticfringe Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just a head's up: there is an experimental fix being tested in the Vaicom Discord group that appears to be working. Once the installation is codified in a better fashion and the fix is confirmed to work across multiple installs, it will be shared publicly. For now, you can access it here: https://discord.gg/g3bSyEX2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerzone Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, lunaticfringe said: Just a head's up: there is an experimental fix being tested in the Vaicom Discord group that appears to be working. Once the installation is codified in a better fashion and the fix is confirmed to work across multiple installs, it will be shared publicly. For now, you can access it here: https://discord.gg/g3bSyEX2 This is indeed great news, however I think it's a bandaid solution. VAICOM is no longer under active development by the original developer. This community patch buys some time but in the end I think the whole community will benefit from direct access to all actions via bindings. (Unless HB are permitted to let us know what UDP calls are required in order to execute those commands with their own module ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Looking forward to more direct commands! I've been mulling a VA command for Fence in A2A/A2G so Jester can set all the radar/bomb/fuse/ripple settings in one go instead of having to go through the menu wheel 6 times just to Fence In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 VAICOM webpage is updated, license is now free and released under GPL.This is an awesome move by Hollywood, and I encourage everybody to get it!Maybe it now can be an integral I part of DCS, Jester, George, Petrovich etc.Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despayre Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just a direct link for those that need it... https://www.vaicompro.com/ 2 I'm not updating this anymore. It's safe to assume I have all the stuff, and the stuff for the stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vCUJOv Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Great news. I'm sure there are plenty of talented people out there that can take this project under their wings and keep it alive for all of us for the years to come. Edited November 1, 2022 by vCUJOv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callsign JoNay Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Hopefully now that it's open source the community can fix the AI RIO problems that Hollywood never bothered to fix. -The entire NAVGRID category being borked. -Attack modes Pilot, Target, Manual, etc. -LANTIRN zoom toggle. -etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tau Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Oh yes, please zoom command for normal Jester wheel as well? 1 Tau's Youtube channel Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/the0tau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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