reported KA-50 BS3 auto turn to target

[504smudge]

I need help, since the BS3 update, I can’t get auto turn to target, to work. I get shval on target, lock it, hit auto turn and the helicopter seems to turn 90 degrees to the left of where the target is. I’m in auto hover, FD off.. am I missing something?

Edited December 16, 2022 by 504smudge

[kaventsmann]

I noticed that too.  the helo turns 90 degrees from the target in auto turn mode. have not yet found why.

[504smudge]

Think I’ve found a possible solution, will test tonight, might be to do with aligning the INS to magnetic heading.. will report when I’ve tested it

[504smudge]

Didn’t work, INS alignment seems totally bugged.. even with quick start getting all sorts of problems with datalink and turn to target 

[FusRoPotato]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Your INS system measures your position. It then uses your camera's angle and range finder to determine the targets location based on your INS location. SO, no matter how badly your INS is aligned, target heading hold should always work.

So somehow, our targeting system is determining the true exact location we're selecting, and our autopilot is then using the misaligned INS system to turn to where it thinks our target is, which is somewhere else apparently?

Edited December 20, 2022 by FusRoPotato

[Hobel]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb FusRoPotato:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Your INS system measures your position. It then uses your camera's angle and range finder to determine the targets location based on your INS location. SO, no matter how badly your INS is aligned, target heading hold should always work.

So somehow, our targeting system is determining the true exact location we're selecting, and our autopilot is then using the misaligned INS system to turn to where it thinks our target is, which is somewhere else apparently?

I think about it similar to some others, even if the drift is over 1000KM the new target point that I create should have exactly the same drift as my Helicopter, but it is not so and after retrieve this is completely different where.

[Bl4ckSp4rrow]

3 hours ago, Hobel said:

I think about it similar to some others, even if the drift is over 1000KM the new target point that I create should have exactly the same drift as my Helicopter, but it is not so and after retrieve this is completely different where.

I tested both the last days in the mission editor. With realistic INS: Helo turning away from target when activating auto turn (like  504smudge descriped it)

Without realistic INS: Helo turning direct to the target, no problems.

[X_legio]

+1 here

[zaelu]

Long press shkval unlock and it will turn. Not sure it is how it should suppose to be.

[Guest]

It does that for me too turns ccw from the target. Have not tried the long press shkval unlock yet. I use realistic ins alignment.

[mtd2811]

Having the same issue as well.

But I observed something.

Next time you are on hover and apply turn to target to target.

If the helo start turning right or left suddenly let it until it settles to a position.

Then switch the 3-WAY switch to top (MH) and adjust the knob for magnetic variation ( below the autopilot lights)

Adjust it to where the helo “should be facing” relative to your target .

Once there, flip the 3-way switch back to middle.

To be honest I don’t know if its the right or wrong thing to do, or if it messes something up; but its the only thing I found that helps me play the helo for now as a temp fix. When i finish with the targets and I am RTB i reset the magnetic variation to the original value for the particular map.


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[v2tec]

32 minutes ago, mtd2811 said:

Having the same issue as well.

But I observed something.

Next time you are on hover and apply turn to target to target.

If the helo start turning right or left suddenly let it until it settles to a position.

Then switch the 3-WAY switch to top (MH) and adjust the knob for magnetic variation ( below the autopilot lights)

Adjust it to where the helo “should be facing” relative to your target .

Once there, flip the 3-way switch back to middle.

To be honest I don’t know if its the right or wrong thing to do, or if it messes something up; but its the only thing I found that helps me play the helo for now as a temp fix. When i finish with the targets and I am RTB i reset the magnetic variation to the original value for the particular map.


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I think I will wait for the patch...

Unfortunately, it wasn't in the last two patches these days.

Edited December 23, 2022 by v2tec

[tusler]

Having the same problem. Thanks for posting.

[Schlomo1933]

Same issue. 

[hellion]

I was pretty reliant on the "Auto Turn" feature for flying and targeting

The new BS3 implementation is totally screwed up it appears, and not sure how they did not notice this bug in testing (or at least indicate the new procedure if correct).

I will continue using BS2 until they fix it since to me the new features in BS3 is not all that much.

I do like the new counter measures improvement though in BS3.

Oh well, I hope they fix it soon and am confused as to why they would release two new patches since the time they released BS3 and would not have fixed this "Auto Turn" bug.

[Eisprinzessin]

Hm Autoturn did not work with "realistic INS" turned off as well.

[Guest]

Adjusting the magnetic variation works as far as I have tested.

[Devrim]

I have the same problem.

@Razor68 If it's about Mag.Var., why does AutoTurn work nice at first minutes of the mission and then work with lots of errors after some time?

Edited December 28, 2022 by Devrim

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Devrim said:

I have the same problem.

@Razor68 If it's about Mag.Var., why does AutoTurn work nice at first minutes of the mission and then work with lots of errors after some time?

 

I have flown some more and it is very unstable and annoying to use.

[Schlomo1933]

the hole INU is completly buged.... it starts with with the alligment thats not working,

-the heading is wrong,

- inu fix works only sometimes , and when it works the heading is also incorrect 

and this will make that the auto turn to target is also messed up.... 

 

we need to wait till its fixed.

 

Also shkval is tracking moving targets, even no "moving ground target" is selected. 

And the shkval have not changed since BS1 ... it dont track with contrast. it still locks objects  (it is cheating) ....

Im disapointed .... 

 

For me it look like , EDs 1st priority was releasing the shark before christmas , without testing his biggest new feature (the new Inu system)

[Devrim]

ED said that INU had something wrong with cold start. So, prefer hot start for now.

[X_legio]

Hi, I have the same problem even with hot start.....

[Schlomo1933]

@Devrimi don’t believe that it will happens only in cold start, or that the problem with INU is related to the cold start procedure. I believe it’s more deeper inside of programming of the INU. Or that a bug in heading messes up the whole INU. 

Even in Hot Start the bugs occur.

Edited December 29, 2022 by Schlomo1933

[grasseh]

Same issue here. Also tried both magnetic and gryoscopic alignment as some videos suggested but it didn't matter.
Is it recognized as a bug ? Is there any workaround at least ?

[Schlomo1933]

As a bug yes. But no workaround. We need to wait till the next patch.