getting coordinates for target points from f10 map

[poochies]

is it possible to get the correct position coordinates from targets on F10 map to enter as TG points  into TSD ? Thank you and happy holidays !

[admiki]

24 minutes ago, poochies said:

is it possible to get the correct position coordinates from targets on F10 map to enter as TG points  into TSD ? Thank you and happy holidays !

Just move your mouse over target and read coordinates on top left side of the window. You might have to change coords type, depending on your settings.

Edited December 25, 2022 by admiki

[poochies]

Ahh yes I remember this now from the A10 days , thanks very much, just want to make sure I can get it in the right coordinate format ... 

Edited December 25, 2022 by poochies

[Floyd1212]

Press LALT+Y to cycle through the different coordinate types.

Also, there’s a utility called “The Way” that will automate transferring multiple points from the F10 map into the TSD. It is handy for setting up waypoints in NAV mode, then clear those out and setup some TGT points in ATTACK mode. 

[Chic]

On 12/25/2022 at 10:57 AM, Floyd1212 said:

Press LALT+Y to cycle through the different coordinate types.

Also, there’s a utility called “The Way” that will automate transferring multiple points from the F10 map into the TSD. It is handy for setting up waypoints in NAV mode, then clear those out and setup some TGT points in ATTACK mode. 

Just looked up “The Way”.    WOW!

Thanks

[Varry007]

Thank me later;

 

[Floyd1212]

Good alternative for VR users. 

The Way seems to be a little more automated, but only works for 2D users because of the way it registers the center of the screen for the value of the coordinates to copy.

[Varry007]

it works perfect in vr; when you call on scratch, it displays a fixed reference point, overlayed on the map. Pan the map untill the point is over the point of interest, hit the button on scratch, and voila, you have the coordinates.

[poochies]

wow thanks lots of options, will the scratch pad do MGRS coordinates if I'm sitting in apache ? I tried the way but it adds them as waypoints not target points guess I could change those on mfd 

[AstonMartinDBS]

16 minutes ago, poochies said:

will the scratch pad do MGRS coordinates if I'm sitting in apache

Simply press LAlt+Y (or LAlt+Z if you use a german keyboard layout) to switch through different coordinate types in the F10 map.

Optionally you can switch the types by clicking directly on the coordinates in the F10 map (top left).

Edited January 1, 2023 by AstonMartinDBS

[Floyd1212]

1 hour ago, poochies said:

I tried the way but it adds them as waypoints not target points

In the Apache, if you are in NAV Mode, it will add the points as waypoints.  Switch the TSD over to ATTACK Mode and it will add your points as generic TGT points.

[poochies]

6 minutes ago, Floyd1212 said:

In the Apache, if you are in NAV Mode, it will add the points as waypoints.  Switch the TSD over to ATTACK Mode and it will add your points as generic TGT points.

You sir are a genius ! Thanks for all the help I really have to watch some good videos on the TSD and making CM's WP's and TG points ..... Hey at least I got the flying down pretty good ! 

[AstonMartinDBS]

25 minutes ago, poochies said:

I really have to watch some good videos on the TSD and making CM's WP's and TG points

If you haven't already seen, I strongly recommend the excellent AH-64D TSD turorials from @Wags:

1. TSD Basics,
2. TSD Points and
3. TSD Navigation.

Edited January 1, 2023 by AstonMartinDBS

[poochies]

1 hour ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

If you haven't already seen, I strongly recommend the excellent AH-64D TSD turorials from @Wags:

1. TSD Basics,
2. TSD Points and
3. TSD Navigation.

 

Thank you will watch !

[Varry007]

On 1/1/2023 at 3:56 PM, poochies said:

wow thanks lots of options, will the scratch pad do MGRS coordinates if I'm sitting in apache ? I tried the way but it adds them as waypoints not target points guess I could change those on mfd 

yes, it gives the coordinates in all 3 formats, standard

[SPAS79]

On 12/25/2022 at 4:57 PM, Floyd1212 said:

Press LALT+Y to cycle through the different coordinate types.

Also, there’s a utility called “The Way” that will automate transferring multiple points from the F10 map into the TSD. It is handy for setting up waypoints in NAV mode, then clear those out and setup some TGT points in ATTACK mode. 

Do you know if that works in VR?

[Floyd1212]

I do not have VR, so I have not tried myself, but I have read elsewhere that it does not work in VR.

[SPAS79]

12 hours ago, Floyd1212 said:

I do not have VR, so I have not tried myself, but I have read elsewhere that it does not work in VR.

Nah it does not. Or, it works but yo don't have a reference pointer on the map to be sure which point you are liftingthe coordinates from. Better to use scratchpad in VR for now. 

[Captain Orso]

The solution with the least amount of work installing and learning mods, is to use a new feature.

• Go to the F10 map.
• Find the unit, who's coordinates you want to have.
• Zoom in on the unit to get the highest amount of precision.
• <LAlt><LClick> on the unit.
  • This will cause a pop-up to appear with the coordinates in all formats.
  • The pop-up remains until you click the button on the pop-up, even if you <F1>

<F1> Back into the cockpit and use the coordinates as required.

Advantages: No outside work.

Disadvantages: You can only work one point at a time, which can be very tedious.

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I cannot suggest "The Way". It seems to be somewhat buggy, and if you are willing to use a mod, there is a better solution, IMHO.

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Scratchpad is the github link. Here is the forum thread: In-Game Scratchpad Mod Available - Works Great In VR!

It works perfectly, and with the latest update, can insert all kinds of points into your board computers on the click of a button.

Not all aircraft are supported with the feature in insert points, but it always works to collect any number of coordinate points on the <F10> map into it's own Scratchpad file, which you can edit in-game as you wish (like using any simple text editor) or between session with any text editor on the Scratchpad files. What more could one want?

Oh, did I say that it works brilliantly in VR?!

Edited August 19, 2023 by Captain Orso

[Floyd1212]

5 hours ago, Captain Orso said:

I cannot suggest "The Way". It seems to be somewhat buggy, and if you are willing to use a mod, there is a better solution, IMHO.

An updated release from a week or two ago fixed several issues.  Working well for me now.

6 hours ago, Captain Orso said:

[Scratchpad] works perfectly, and with the latest update, can insert all kinds of points into your board computers on the click of a button.

So Scratchpad can now transfer the points into the TSD like The Way is doing?  I'll have to give it another look, then.

[Captain Orso]

Scratchpad got rewritten a couple months ago to accept plug-ins.

Draken35 wrote some plug-ins, which add a keyboard and inputting the points into the board computer on a number of aircraft, not all, but including the AH-64.

From my testing, it works very well. Just read the README and follow the instructions. It's quite impressive.

Edited August 19, 2023 by Captain Orso

[Beardy McWhisky]

Anyone know if you can move the coordinates popup in VR? Having to look at my left thigh to use the CDU in the A10, then the popup is top right over and over is... painful...

[Bri01]

I like to use Scratchpad Plus. It's Scratchpad but it also enters the coordinates In for you. Works really well.

[andyfoot]

You can also copy the coords onto the clipboard, then paste them into the Kneeboard (it will create a new page automatically on the Kneeboard) directly as a game feature

 

[andyfoot]

In F10 view, place mouse cursor over your point of interest, then L-Alt and L-Mouse click. A small blue circle will appear at your point, and the Coords box will appear.

You can click the "Copy" icon to the right of whichever coord format you want, or click the COPY button on the bottom to copy every format to the clipboard.

In your Control Options page for UI Layer, assign a button/command for the "Paste From Clipboard to Kneeboard", then use that command to paste into the Kneeboard.

If you note how many pages in the Kneeboard before you paste (the first time) you will see (in my case) there are 66 pages, after pasting I now have 67 pages. The new page 67 has all the data I just copied.

Then rinse and repeat

 

Edited March 29, 2024 by andyfoot