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Hey all, new product from next level racing looks like it might be a good jetseat alternative.

Currently doesn't support dcs world via the software only the 3.5mm audio, but I have contacted nlr to see if they will support it natively.

 

Edit: response from nlr, theyre already working on adding dcs.

https://nextlevelracing.com/products/hf8-haptic-gaming-pad/


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35 minutes ago, cordite said:

Product itself doesn’t seem to be available yet.

It is in Australia now, very tempted to order it, should be available soon elsewhere if it's not yet.

There are quite a few reviews up in the sim racing community.

https://pagnianimports.com.au/collections/haptic/products/next-level-racing-hf8-haptic-feedback-gaming-pad-1

 


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HF8 works perfectly fine in DCS! Next Level Racing HF8 seems to be a remake of Realteus Forcefeel. The cabling and the control box looks very similar and SimShaker for Aviators does even recognise HF8 as a ForceFeel device. Skip NLR:s software, install the free version of SimShaker for Aviators and use HF8 as a ForceFeel device and enjoy the rumbling feedback in DCS!


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On 2/25/2023 at 4:43 AM, Fretz said:

HF8 works perfectly fine in DCS! Next Level Racing HF8 seems to be a remake of Realteus Forcefeel. The cabling and the control box looks very similar and SimShaker for Aviators does even recognise HF8 as a ForceFeel device. Skip NLR:s software, install the free version of SimShaker for Aviators and use HF8 as a ForceFeel device and enjoy the rumbling feedback in DCS!

 

Thanks, I picked one up, their simracing integration is good, flight is currently not great so I'll give simshaker a go.

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Hi Simm0,

Could you let me know which one works best with DCS please?

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As i understood the next level racing software is actually not compatible with DCS? Can anyone confirm please? 

 

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Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms
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DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

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On 3/7/2023 at 3:33 PM, corbu1 said:

As i understood the next level racing software is actually not compatible with DCS? Can anyone confirm please? 

 

from what I read, you can use SSA for the NLR choosing Forcefeel compabilty on SSA software but I could be mistaken

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vor 13 Stunden schrieb Ala12Rv-Tundra:

from what I read, you can use SSA for the NLR choosing Forcefeel compabilty on SSA software but I could be mistaken

Ok, thanks. That would be great!

meanwhile I read it‘ planed including DCS in their software, maybe Q2 2023….

Thinking about it this weekend if I‘ll order…As I know myself, I‘ll order🤣

DCS version2.9.5.55918
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms
 - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) - Kola — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - Australia - Iraq

DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

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I know a couple of people who have them and seem to enjoy it. Not sure if they are using telemetry but will ask next time I see them. 

Easy to buy and return in Aus as they are sold at typical retailers

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/next-level-racing-hf8-haptic-feedback-gaming-pad

 

p.s i read somewhere recently that someone is releasing a under $300 USD transducer based equivalent. That would probably be the way to go rather than spinning weight motors 

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I have the HF8 and integrated with SSA. I also use this in conjunction with a Buttkicker Pro. I love the combination of the 2. The HF8 works great with SSA and provides some more subtle and detailed vibration where the Buttkicker provides the bigger hits and shakes. They match together well. I have had no issues with it at all and while NLR has indicated they will implement DCS with their software, I have no intention of switching away from SSA. 

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6 hours ago, Dogmanbird said:

I know a couple of people who have them and seem to enjoy it. Not sure if they are using telemetry but will ask next time I see them. 

Easy to buy and return in Aus as they are sold at typical retailers

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/next-level-racing-hf8-haptic-feedback-gaming-pad

 

p.s i read somewhere recently that someone is releasing a under $300 USD transducer based equivalent. That would probably be the way to go rather than spinning weight motors 

Both systems for pros and cons. Just sitting over transducers might be less confortable than smaller spinning motors 

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Hey everyone, I'm working with @BIGNEWY for more information how to help in this process and will pass this information to my contacts Tim and Corey at NLR.

AWG received this product for review and I have done an initial setup video and will be forwarding it to another AWG team member (Tekada, our former Army Blackhawk Pilot) for his assessment.  More on that soon.

EDIT: From Tim Joyce at NLR just now.
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I did see your short "overview" on the HF8. Mine should be with me this week Woohoo"!

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Am 3.4.2023 um 22:44 schrieb JUICE-AWG:

Hey everyone, I'm working with @BIGNEWY for more information how to help in this process and will pass this information to my contacts Tim and Corey at NLR.

AWG received this product for review and I have done an initial setup video and will be forwarding it to another AWG team member (Tekada, our former Army Blackhawk Pilot) for his assessment.  More on that soon.

EDIT: From Tim Joyce at NLR just now.
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Thanks so much for these great news!

I‘ve ordered mine a few days ago. I will be prepared then when DCS integration is ready.

BTW: I like your youtube channel!

DCS version2.9.5.55918
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms
 - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) - Kola — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - Australia - Iraq

DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

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On 2/24/2023 at 5:43 PM, Fretz said:

HF8 works perfectly fine in DCS! Next Level Racing HF8 seems to be a remake of Realteus Forcefeel. The cabling and the control box looks very similar and SimShaker for Aviators does even recognise HF8 as a ForceFeel device. Skip NLR:s software, install the free version of SimShaker for Aviators and use HF8 as a ForceFeel device and enjoy the rumbling feedback in DCS!

 

I have one coming next week after my jet seat packed up, like you I would not lose SSA. Do I need to do anything to get it working with SSA or is it just plug and play? 

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Mine is here but they did not deliver it I have to wait to Saturday now.

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On 3/8/2023 at 2:36 PM, Ala12Rv-Tundra said:

from what I read, you can use SSA for the NLR choosing Forcefeel compabilty on SSA software but I could be mistaken

Can confirm. I have one, it works perfectly fine with SSA.

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Mine has arrived.

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Worked 1st time out of the box using

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vor 6 Stunden schrieb rapid:

Worked 1st time out of the box using

SSA

 

Great News! Thanks for reporting. Mine will arrive on Thursday. I‘m excited trying it…..

DCS version2.9.5.55918
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms
 - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) - Kola — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - Australia - Iraq

DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

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Don't forget to set it to force Feel and all settings are default "50" so may or may not "feel" anything depending on what you fly so turn them up and work your way back from there for fine tunning.

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vor 3 Stunden schrieb rapid:

Don't forget to set it to force Feel and all settings are default "50" so may or may not "feel" anything depending on what you fly so turn them up and work your way back from there for fine tunning.

Thanks!! Will do so…

DCS version2.9.5.55918
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms
 - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) - Kola — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - Australia - Iraq

DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

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Got mine today…two days earlier as expected.

I just set it up and did a first testflight with the Apache.

wooooh…is that cool! A new immersive level!😍

Seems to work great with SSA. Will also do some fine tuning the following days!

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DCS version2.9.5.55918
Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod) - OH-6A(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms
 - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) - Kola — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - Australia - Iraq

DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta

DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus

Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1

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