On my wish list. A U.S. Navy SeaKing

[AC_Snowman374th]

I mean, C'mon!!  She should already have been built a long time ago, in my opinion. She's been the U.S. Navy's Favorite for decades. And also for the U.K. and many other Countries I'm sure. She's probably the best equivalent to the Mi8 in my book. Power. Control. Rescue. Transport. Mountain use. The Sea's. PLEASE!! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!  And please make it as good as the Mi8 is with control ability. We AMERICANS want control in our helo's too. ...  I hope she's made soon!  So how about it, are there anyone else interested in one of these beautiful helicopters for DCS?'?

[upyr1]

The H-3 served with the USAF too as the Jolly Green. We got the A-1 on the way You can fly the Jolly Green I'm flying Sandy 

[sirrah]

21 minutes ago, AC_Snowman374th said:

I mean, C'mon!!  She should already have been built a long time ago, in my opinion. She's been the U.S. Navy's Favorite for decades. And also for the U.K. and many other Countries I'm sure. She's probably the best equivalent to the Mi8 in my book. Power. Control. Rescue. Transport. Mountain use. The Sea's. PLEASE!! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!  And please make it as good as the Mi8 is with control ability. We AMERICANS want control in our helo's too. ...  I hope she's made soon!  So how about it, are there anyone else interested in one of these beautiful helicopters for DCS?'?

Isn't the Sea King a "he"? 

 

Anyway, she or he, I'd purchase it 

[Kang]

The Sea King sure is one of those legends.

Wide spread use as well, from the US, the UK, Canada, Germany, Japan, Australia, Spain, quite recently Ukraine and probably a dozen more countries. So the tough question has to be: which version of the legend would one prefer?

[AC_Snowman374th]

"which version of the legend would one prefer" = All of them of course.. lol  Paint can be added to make them all.. And they can all do they same things so that would be easy..

[upyr1]

2 hours ago, AC_Snowman374th said:

"which version of the legend would one prefer" = All of them of course.. lol  Paint can be added to make them all.. And they can all do they same things so that would be easy..

I'll be happy with a USAF livery and a rescue hoist 

[syzygy]

On 1/29/2023 at 11:36 PM, Kang said:

US, the UK, Canada, Germany, Japan, Australia, Spain,

You forgot India

 

[Northstar98]

Definitely, I would love a Sea King, preferably in multiple versions.

Unfortunately, the main hurdle for the ASW variants (like the SH-3H - which is accurate for the Forrestal and the HAS.5 - accurate for the SA map) is that it doesn't really exist in DCS World (apart from attacking surfaced submarines with more generic air-to-surface weapons).

We also don't have rescue hoists/winches in DCS World, which is a bit of a hinderance for the SAR variants (particularly air-sea rescue).

So right now, I'm inclined to go down the route of the Sea King HC.4 as operated by the Royal Navy, which probably has the best use case in DCS as it stands, being a transport helicopter while fitting on the South Atlantic map and on ships of the South Atlantic assets pack.

I would however like to see an SH-3H (which fits nicley on the Forrestal and is another step to completing a mid-ish 80s carrier set up, alongside the A-6E, A-7E and the early F-14A-135-GR - after that it's only the EA-6B, E-2C, S-3A and EA-3B to go), but the aforementioned total lack of ASW is tricky; a HAS.5 (which would also go on the SA map, as well as the Invincible and Hermes if we get it, but has the same ASW issues).

After that, my next choice would probably be the RNoAF Mk 43, which would fit on the Kola map (and we'll be getting some of the airbases it operates out of) and the Egyptian variants (which would go on the Sinai map).

Edited January 31, 2023 by Northstar98

[upyr1]

59 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

We also don't have rescue hoists/winches in DCS World, which is a bit of a hinderance for the SAR variants (particularly air-sea rescue).

 

 they need to be added 

 

[AC_Snowman374th]

They actually do. The SAR server uses them. I mean you can't see them working, if that's what you mean. But they're there

I am currently working on a Nevada Search and Rescue.. Sorta.. Same idea, different agenda.. But If I learn all the basics,, I will sure add it all

into Nevada, like Kutaisi is.. I love that Map.. The owner just doesn't keep it up long  Constantly working on it. But it's fun.

[Kang]

On 1/31/2023 at 6:17 AM, syzygy said:

You forgot India

 

My apologies! Also Italy, Argentina and I think Saudi Arabia.

23 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

Definitely, I would love a Sea King, preferably in multiple versions.

Unfortunately, the main hurdle for the ASW variants (like the SH-3H - which is accurate for the Forrestal and the HAS.5 - accurate for the SA map) is that it doesn't really exist in DCS World (apart from attacking surfaced submarines with more generic air-to-surface weapons).

We also don't have rescue hoists/winches in DCS World, which is a bit of a hinderance for the SAR variants (particularly air-sea rescue).

So right now, I'm inclined to go down the route of the Sea King HC.4 as operated by the Royal Navy, which probably has the best use case in DCS as it stands, being a transport helicopter while fitting on the South Atlantic map and on ships of the South Atlantic assets pack.

I would however like to see an SH-3H (which fits nicley on the Forrestal and is another step to completing a mid-ish 80s carrier set up, alongside the A-6E, A-7E and the early F-14A-135-GR - after that it's only the EA-6B, E-2C, S-3A and EA-3B to go), but the aforementioned total lack of ASW is tricky; a HAS.5 (which would also go on the SA map, as well as the Invincible and Hermes if we get it, but has the same ASW issues).

After that, my next choice would probably be the RNoAF Mk 43, which would fit on the Kola map (and we'll be getting some of the airbases it operates out of) and the Egyptian variants (which would go on the Sinai map).

 

That's a bit of an issue really. DCS so far has a bit lackluster ASW going on indeed, but the whole transport bit isn't exactly stellar either and could definitely use a bit of an overhaul, not just for any upcoming transport-centered module but also for the sake of our trusty utility helicopters already available.

Going for the 'Jolly Green Giant' instead of one of the navy Sea Kings of course cuts that little corner of making it possible to land on water, which so far isn't a thing in DCS either, but personally I would prefer one of the amphibious variants for their classic shape.

[cfrag]

Are you kidding me? No-one bothered the post the holy image of Helicopter 66? The Sea King?

And if we get that model, please, please, pleeeeeease include an Apollo 11 capsule as static object just for us old timers who dreamt of becoming a rotorhead since July 24, 1969 (didn't give a hoot about those fuzzy moon images, I was too small. But helicopters? Wupwupwupwup! Yeah!)

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[AC_Snowman374th]

@Kang. I don't know,, I can do quite a bit with the Helo.. Just meaning, most of what you want I agree with for sure.. But the operations do work pretty good. When the sar server gets back up, come fly in it with me or us,, many go there. I'll show you around the place. Firefight. Rescue. Or supply. It's a lot of fun. The owner can't get the weather the way they want it so it's worked on a lot. It's down at the moment. We all wait impatiently though.. LMAO..

I seriously think that someone could basically copy what the Mi8 can do into the Seaking as far as HOTAS and controls go. Hoist can work the same.. We just can't see cable.. But on supply runs you can see it. Soon we'll see templates for vehicles being carried too.

[Northstar98]

On 2/1/2023 at 12:19 PM, Kang said:

That's a bit of an issue really. DCS so far has a bit lackluster ASW going on indeed, but the whole transport bit isn't exactly stellar either and could definitely use a bit of an overhaul

True, but at least it's not practically completely absent like ASW, where the only aspect that I can name present in DCS World is submarines that submerge - that's it. The list of things DCS would probably need to implement in order to facilitate this is rather long.

At least for transportation, we can at least embark infantry (though unfortunately only from land, we can't embark units from ships or to ships for that matter), so that's at least something.

The main thing we're missing IMO is the ability to slingload functional units and the ability to transport cargo that has a practical purpose besides infantry (namely fuel and ammunition). After that, it's more nice to have stuff like having cargo/infantry visible inside when embarking them and improved animations for embarking/disembarking.

 

But I mean, I'd fly a Sea King just to fly one - it's one of my favourite helicopters.

I've spent most of my life living not far from a Royal Navy airbase, where Sea Kings (predominatly HAR.5, though also the odd ASaC.7) used to be a very common sight when I was going to school.

On 2/1/2023 at 12:19 PM, Kang said:

Going for the 'Jolly Green Giant' instead of one of the navy Sea Kings of course cuts that little corner of making it possible to land on water, which so far isn't a thing in DCS either, but personally I would prefer one of the amphibious variants for their classic shape.

Agreed.

Edited February 5, 2023 by Northstar98

[Angelthunder]

I was surprised when ED announced the C-47 Chinook coming in there 2023/Beyond video as i thought they would do the UH-60 Black Hawk first to supplement the Apache attack copter but that got me thinking that ED is probably waiting to do an S-70 series later down the road since there's multiple variants that includes the SH-60 Seahawk for the US Navy.

[AC_Snowman374th]

10 hours ago, Angelthunder said:

"I was surprised when ED announced the C-47 Chinook coming in there 2023"

= Well that will be awesome I'm sure.. Hopefully better than the FREE MOD.. lol

 

[Kang]

19 hours ago, AC_Snowman374th said:

@Kang. I don't know,, I can do quite a bit with the Helo.. Just meaning, most of what you want I agree with for sure.. But the operations do work pretty good. When the sar server gets back up, come fly in it with me or us,, many go there. I'll show you around the place. Firefight. Rescue. Or supply. It's a lot of fun. The owner can't get the weather the way they want it so it's worked on a lot. It's down at the moment. We all wait impatiently though.. LMAO..

I seriously think that someone could basically copy what the Mi8 can do into the Seaking as far as HOTAS and controls go. Hoist can work the same.. We just can't see cable.. But on supply runs you can see it. Soon we'll see templates for vehicles being carried too.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but most of these things rely heavily on user-made scripts to run in the missions. There are a lot of options for that because very talented people have published their 'toolboxes' like CTLD, SAR scripts and so on, but frankly, to buy a module centered around these tasks, I would expect them to be working 'out of the box' at least, even if there is no visible interaction.

[Vampyre]

On 2/1/2023 at 10:36 AM, Angelthunder said:

I was surprised when ED announced the C-47 Chinook coming in there 2023/Beyond video as i thought they would do the UH-60 Black Hawk first to supplement the Apache attack copter but that got me thinking that ED is probably waiting to do an S-70 series later down the road since there's multiple variants that includes the SH-60 Seahawk for the US Navy.

Honestly, I don't want ED to do a H-60. They have not done a family of anything yet so I suspect that they would do a single UH-60M with a few different skins and be done with it. As varied as the H-60 family is, I think the third party developers would do them the most justice between the different versions of the H-60/S-70 platform.

... and to stay on topic, yes A Sea King would be awesome. The US Navy did operate stripped down Sea King utility helicopters. The SH-3G and UH-3H were both used for cargo/rescue work. An HH-3E CSAR bird would be nice too.

Edited February 3, 2023 by Vampyre