Lordfacker84 Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 i think there is a problem with acls , some times i can't couple plane with carrier. Is it a bug or i'm doing something wrong?
Schlomo1933 Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 Depends what are u doing. Without explaining what u are doing or providing a track no one can help you.
Top Jockey Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 Are you also activating the DLC system ? Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Lordfacker84 Posted March 31, 2023 Author Posted March 31, 2023 i have set up the connection with carrier with jester , (link host Truman) ...the a/p ref signal on the front console lights up , but all stop there. i have set ils, awl on hud and vdi, and autopilot in acl mode , but it doesn't work
draconus Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) You need also autothrottle afair and be in full landing config: gear, flaps, dlc then steering mode. Edited March 31, 2023 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Lordfacker84 Posted March 31, 2023 Author Posted March 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, draconus said: You need also autothrottle afair and be in full landing config: gear, flaps, dlc then steering mode. just do it ...also engage autothrottle....the problem is that i don't see voice message on front light panel...i think that there is a problem with the connection with carrier
draconus Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lordfacker84 said: just do it ...also engage autothrottle....the problem is that i don't see voice message on front light panel...i think that there is a problem with the connection with carrier Is it your mission or some included in DCS? Carrier needs to be set correctly. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Lordfacker84 Posted March 31, 2023 Author Posted March 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, draconus said: Is it your mission or some included in DCS? Carrier needs to be set correctly. i tried the same mission with an f18 and it work...i think that mission is correct
draconus Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) I've just tried Instant Action, Caucasus, Case I CVN-73 in F-14B and it kinda works - it bolters eventually and does dangerous hard right at touchdown, so I can't recommend it atm, but it coupled no problem. Again, from memory: contact carrier ATC, inbound... then continue with proper comms as you approach Jester > DL > carrier Jester > TACAN > TAC > carrier Landing pilot mode, steering mode to AWL/PCD, HUD > ACL, VDI > ACL Wings auto, hook down, airbrakes out, landing gear down, flaps down, DLC on Throttle to ~30% then auto Fly onto the GS AP mode ACL, AP engage On, A/P ref shows up, hit NWS and you're coupled! Edited April 4, 2023 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Lordfacker84 Posted March 31, 2023 Author Posted March 31, 2023 my mission is set with supercarrier in Marianas, could it be a bug?
draconus Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Lordfacker84 said: my mission is set with supercarrier in Marianas, could it be a bug? I checked the carrier in HB mission and it only sets TACAN and ICLS. Upload your mission and I'll check how it works. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Lordfacker84 Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 7:55 PM, draconus said: I checked the carrier in HB mission and it only sets TACAN and ICLS. Upload your mission and I'll check how it works. this is the test mission C-SUPERCARRIER-f14-CASE III MARIANAS..miz
draconus Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Lordfacker84 said: this is the test mission C-SUPERCARRIER-f14-CASE III MARIANAS..miz 3.24 MB · 1 download All went fine with ACLS I had to dump fuel a lot, went straight in, I had no time for patterns. It even landed nice 2 wire. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Lordfacker84 Posted April 4, 2023 Author Posted April 4, 2023 I don't understand, i'm doing everything as usual ...others missions work fine , but this seems not to work....do you use stable o beta version?
draconus Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lordfacker84 said: I don't understand, i'm doing everything as usual ...others missions work fine , but this seems not to work....do you use stable o beta version? I used latest OB MT. Check again the list I provided earlier in this thread - you must be missing some step. Let me know if you don't understand some part. Edited April 4, 2023 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Lordfacker84 Posted April 4, 2023 Author Posted April 4, 2023 58 minutes ago, draconus said: I used latest OB MT. Check again the list I provided earlier in this thread - you must be missing some step. Let me know if you don't understand some part. i try again thanks
martinistripes Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 I don't mean to hijack your thread, but I've also had issues with the ACLS. I've been using the Instant Action F-14A/B Case III missions in Syria, Caucasus and Mariana's. The two times I used the ACLS, the first time it flew me into the back of the carrier, and the 2nd time it didn't catch a wire. Should it work every time or is a bit of error built into the simulation. Should I use a bit of stick correction before touch down? I have break out, flaps down, hook down, gear down and DLC on. Valve Index | RTX 4080 (Mobile) | i9-14900HX @ 2.20 GHz | 32GB RAM
draconus Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 4 hours ago, martinistripes said: Should I use a bit of stick correction before touch down? Pilot should always overtake controls when in danger. We were told ACLS is not to be relied on 100% but only devs can tell if it works as intended atm. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Shaman Posted April 19, 2023 Posted April 19, 2023 ACLS will bolter for me most of the time. This is due to auto-throttle working in impulses adding too much power, then reducing it, and oscillating back and forth. I have tried every configuration and being perfectly trimmed before engaging, it always goes into this weird oscillation. What saves me is taking control over with DLC if it happens to be adding power just before trap. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Rifter Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 I would also love to know what kind of available background knowledge went into the modelling of the Tomcat ACLS system since there is not much information around. And the stereotyped ‘it was not 100% reliable’ is something that sounds like a welcomed excuse. The only information I ever stumbled over was the story of a F-14A pilot who said that a non-working ACLS system was due to factory faults: Wrong sized beacon antennas and wrong (‘backwards’) mounted coupling actuators for the pitch commands to the horizontal stab which led to pitch up manoeuvres when pitch down was needed and vice versa. But when the aircraft was set up properly on the technical side the ACLS would fly ‘rails’ to a 3 wire.
normanleto Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) On 4/19/2023 at 11:40 PM, Shaman said: ACLS will bolter for me most of the time. This is due to auto-throttle working in impulses adding too much power, then reducing it, and oscillating back and forth. I have tried every configuration and being perfectly trimmed before engaging, it always goes into this weird oscillation. What saves me is taking control over with DLC if it happens to be adding power just before trap. so you just give some minimal dlc flaperons input to compensate for a-throttle overreaction and it hooks the line correctly? Like a one small input second before trap? Edited February 4 by normanleto ...10 years with dcs...
RustBelt Posted February 4 Posted February 4 ACLS isn’t a full autoland. By the burble you really should be flying the plane to finish the job. Super Hornets only just recently got full autoland.
Shaman Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Since this thread has been ressurected. I have tried it with FFB stick (VPForce). It is not working well if FFB Trim Actuator special function is set to on. Even if FFB Trim Actuator special function is set to off, ACLS is all over the place with ATC on. Tested it again and again being perfectly trimmed on glidepath and according to procedures. It might be FFB implentation that throws its logic off. Something for Heatblur to test. I think it ACLS is quite useless with proper FFB gear and will just get you killed. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
JupiterJoe Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Intel Core i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz - 64GB RAM - Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 - Microsoft Sidewinder Force-feedback 2 - Virpil Mongoose CM-3 Throttle
Dragon1-1 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 (edited) On 2/4/2025 at 11:10 PM, RustBelt said: ACLS isn’t a full autoland. By the burble you really should be flying the plane to finish the job. Super Hornets only just recently got full autoland. ACLS Mode I is definitely a full autoland, from entry to touchdown on deck. That's exactly the definition of Mode I. I don't know what the Superbug got recently, but it's been capable of Mode I operations from the start. That said, it's not perfectly reliable, and it wasn't IRL, either. If you spot it misbehaving, you should be prepared to fall back to Mode II (manual control with needles) or Mode III (manual control with LSO talkdown). Edited February 15 by Dragon1-1 1 1
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