MA_Goblin Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 Hi everyone, Just want to give my view on my new simulator seat that I bought to replace my home built "wooden wonder" after many years of use. I was impressed with the images and initial reviews of the NLR Boeing military edition that I could find and decided to order one. Since I live in Sweden both initial price and shipping cost cannot be called cheap in any way however I was betting on the quality matching cost. I will not make a long assembly review since there is those to be found on YouTube. The package is LARGE and HEAVY though so it's definitely a two man job to haul it to where the build will take place. The manual is excellent, the quality and finish equally great so I was not disappointed at all with this. Assembly takes about 4 hours and then be prepared to fiddle for a couple of days in order to find the best location for Your accessories. It is NOT made for changing mounting places very often, measure twice mount once! That is my recommendation The assembled seat is sturdy, comfortable (I'm 175 cm above sea level) and the adjustment possibilities are great, at least for my accessories. Two thing that is slightly negative are: In order to get the VPC CM2 base and handle with a 200mm extension to fit I had to fabricate an adapter and drill some holes in the one that came with the seat to mount it. It works great but requires some tools and time. In order to mount the MFG pedals I had to drill holes in the pedal-plate since the mounting holes existing did not fit. All in all for me two minor inconveniences. I highly recommend this seat, both for quality, adjustment possibilities and comfort. https://nextlevelracing.com/products/boeing-combat-flight-simulator/ 4 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] _____________Semper paratus, In hoc signo vinces________________ PC: Intel i7-8700K (4.9 GHz), Aorus Ultra Gaming Z370 MB, Gigabyte RTX 3080, 32 GB DDR3 (3,2 GHz), Samsung EVO 860 M.2 500 GB SSD + Samsung 960 M.2 250 GB SSD Gaming: Virpil T-50 CM2, TM WH Throttle, Crosswind pedals, HP Reverb
Scott-S6 Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) I have a very similar seat from NLR in my cockpit and found the seat base to be too close to flat, resulting in it becoming uncomfortable after a couple of hours. A wooden wedge between the seat pan and cushions made a big difference. I later fitted a Martin Baker seat box which is aggressively contoured and now it's excellent. Edited April 1, 2023 by Scott-S6 1
No1sonuk Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 Did you send feedback to NLR about the mods you needed to do? MFG pedals are a common thing. I'm surprised the plate wasn't compatible. 1
MA_Goblin Posted April 1, 2023 Author Posted April 1, 2023 Just now, No1sonuk said: Did you send feedback to NLR about the mods you needed to do? MFG pedals are a common thing. I'm surprised the plate wasn't compatible. I will do so 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] _____________Semper paratus, In hoc signo vinces________________ PC: Intel i7-8700K (4.9 GHz), Aorus Ultra Gaming Z370 MB, Gigabyte RTX 3080, 32 GB DDR3 (3,2 GHz), Samsung EVO 860 M.2 500 GB SSD + Samsung 960 M.2 250 GB SSD Gaming: Virpil T-50 CM2, TM WH Throttle, Crosswind pedals, HP Reverb
corbu1 Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 The NLR seat looks very nice and I‘d be interested in it. Biggest problem I see as well is the uncomfortable center mount. I‘d have to integrate a stick with a 400mm extension for use as helocyclic. But this seems not easy to assemble to the seat base. DCS Version: 2.9.15.9408 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F - OH-58D - UH-60L(Mod, n.i.) - OH-6A(Mod, n.i.) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - AJS37 - F-14 - MiG-21bis - JF-17 - Mirage F1 - FC2024 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Channel - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan - Kola - Iraq - Cold War Germany — Waiting for: BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) DCS-Client: 9800X3D, 64GB 6200, RTX3090, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 4TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 64GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro Cyclic: TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + VPforce Rhino FFB FW Stick: TM Warthog Grip and Base, Throttle: TM Warthog Pedals: Komodo Sim. with Dampers Collective: VPC Rotorplus+AH-64D Grip Other: NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s and EUFD, Alain Dufour’s AH-64 TEDAC, TM MFD, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1
jnr4817 Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 Do they sell just the actual seat part. I’ve got my own sim rig. I don’t wanna pay monster tech money. It be nice if they sold just the seat at a competitive price. 9800x3d|64 GB 6200|4090|m.2 x2 http://www.blacksharkden.com/ Come join us!
_Hoss Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Scott-S6 said: I have a very similar seat from NLR in my cockpit and found the seat base to be too close to flat, resulting in it becoming uncomfortable after a couple of hours. A wooden wedge between the seat pan and cushions made a big difference. I later fitted a Martin Baker seat box which is aggressively contoured and now it's excellent. Screen shots? Sempre Fortis
Scott-S6 Posted April 2, 2023 Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, _Hoss said: Screen shots? This is the seat as it is now, I can't find any pics of the intermediate state where I'd shortened the pan and put a wooden contour between the pan and cushions. (the odd texture on the cushion is from the hexagonal gel filler - very comfy) Edited April 2, 2023 by Scott-S6 1 1
Six Gun Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 I have the same NLR military edition seat and love it!
aleader Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) I'm looking at this but the very narrow range of options for the pedals and stick mount turn me off. That, and the very uncomfortable looking seat. When I spend $1,100 CAD on something, I had better not have to 'drill holes' and 'fabricate' anything to make things work. I have Crosswind pedals and a VKB Gladiator NXT stick, but it doesn't look as though either will work with this out of the box. What were they thinking designing it like this? They just assumed that everyone has a TM Warthog and/or plays nothing but MSFS? EDIT: I watched a video and see that there is a 'plate' for a right-hand joystick mount where the mouse sits, and Crosswind is mentioned as supported hardware, so I assume my pedals would have mounting holes. Question: does this come with a mouse pad? I see a 'thin' one in the video beside where the joystick would mount. Does it also come with a lumbar support? Several Amazon reviews said it did not come with these, yet it says they are included on the Next Level site. Edited May 20, 2023 by aleader "I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer." - Michael Bluth
_Hoss Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 Yeah, I wish life were that easy, one size fits all for every application. That would be awesome...... yep..... Cheers Sempre Fortis
aleader Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, _Hoss said: Yeah, I wish life were that easy, one size fits all for every application. That would be awesome...... yep..... Cheers It looks pretty close actually after watching a few more review videos. I see that it does come with a custom KB and mouse pad, and the lumbar support. I also see that I would be able to attach my racing wheel and pedals with the front support tray, so it's now on my list for purchase in the fall when I get back inside the house for our extremely cold winters. This is the first thing I've seen that can replace my very robust home-built rolling wood/mdf 'cockpit' for a reasonable price and footprint. I'd say we can all probably thank MSFS (that I don't own) for the decent hardware that's starting to appear for flight sims (i.e. this and the HF8 seat pad). The only thing that nobody has addressed is the ability to mount a collective stick on the side, although somebody will figure it out soon enough and post a video I'm sure. Also, my bad, I missed that the OP has the Crosswind pedals installed... Edited May 21, 2023 by aleader "I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer." - Michael Bluth
MustangSally Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 Here's my completed Simpit 5 Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 2:05 AM, MustangSally said: Here's my completed Simpit nicely done sir. how did you modify WW takeoff panel knobs to gray? does the collective arm interfere when using the throttle? i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
MustangSally Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Ala12Rv-Tundra said: nicely done sir. how did you modify WW takeoff panel knobs to gray? does the collective arm interfere when using the throttle? I've since re-positioned it along with lowering the center stick mount. The knobs are 3d printed null Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
_Hoss Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) Glad I didn't buy the first version. Edited June 9, 2023 by _Hoss Sempre Fortis
MustangSally Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, _Hoss said: Glad I didn't buy the first version. Nothing wrong withe mine....in fact it works perfectly and I think looks so much better. Oh and btw it's a totally different rig and not a new version!! Edited June 10, 2023 by MustangSally Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 On 6/10/2023 at 7:28 AM, MustangSally said: Nothing wrong withe mine....in fact it works perfectly and I think looks so much better. Oh and btw it's a totally different rig and not a new version!! well the fact that a company like that keeps releasing flight sim products is very positive for us customers and I am certain will attract more people to the flight sim community, excellent news 1 i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
MustangSally Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Ala12Rv-Tundra said: well the fact that a company like that keeps releasing flight sim products is very positive for us customers and I am certain will attract more people to the flight sim community, excellent news It's also great that they are an Australian company that are only a short distance down the road from me. Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
Scott-S6 Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 On 6/10/2023 at 6:28 AM, MustangSally said: Nothing wrong withe mine....in fact it works perfectly and I think looks so much better. Oh and btw it's a totally different rig and not a new version!! Very different price point as well. ~50% more than the boeing rig and triple the price of the F-GT (in the UK). Options are good things. 1
JG27_Arklight Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) On 6/12/2023 at 1:38 AM, Scott-S6 said: Very different price point as well. ~50% more than the boeing rig and triple the price of the F-GT (in the UK). Options are good things. The new NLR setup is actually broken down into 2 pieces that don't need to be purchased together. If you want to use your desk or don't need the flight stand than you don't need to purchase it. The new pit is a better option for DCS users who want a center mounted stick with an extension since the center mount on the new offering has more height/etc.. options. That was a big downside to the original NLR pit and one of the main "issues" pointed out in feedback. So, is it a new version? Not really...but it is improved in some ways over what was released before. For centrally mounted stick users who prefer to use a 200mm extension I would 100% buy this over the other NLR simpit (unless you just want to fabricate something). Both the new and less-new NLR pits are great options though. Additionally, you can now purchase the seat by itself if you already have a simpit and just want the seat alone. Having said all that, if somebody is in the market for a Simpit that won't break the bank and has expandability, I'd check out the offering from Simfab. It's cheap, gets the job done, has quite a few expandability options and leaves a smaller footprint. Btw, does anybody know the distance between the mounting rails on their Boeing seat in cm or MM (preferably MM)? Thinking about getting one for my Monstertech pit. Edited June 20, 2023 by JG27_Arklight 1 Ark ------------------ Windows 10 Pro x64 9900K @ 5ghz Gigabyte Aorus Master Z390 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB CAS 14 EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra XC2 256gb Samsung 869 Pro (Boot Drive) 1TB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus Seasoninc 1000w Titanium Ultra PSU 34" ASUS PG348
Customizer171 Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 On 6/20/2023 at 8:02 AM, JG27_Arklight said: does anybody know the distance between the mounting rails on their Boeing seat in cm or MM (preferably MM)? Thinking about getting one for my Monstertech pit. Distance between the mounting rails are 355 mm, center to center. 2 Ryzen 7 5800X - RTX 3080 - G.Skill DDR4 3600 CL16 32GB - Samsung 970 EVO 500GB - Samsung 870 1TB - Win 10 VKB Gunfighter Mk III - VKB KG 12 grip - Virpil CM3 Throttle - Virpil KA-50 panel - Thrustmaster TPR - Reverb G2 V2 NLR Boeing Military Edition Simpit Viggen - F86 Sabre - Mig 15 - A 10 C II - FC 3 - Mosquito - P 47D - Spitfire - FW 190 A/D - Bf 109 - P 51 D - I 16 - Huey - Hind Syria - Normandy 2 - The Channel - Sinai - South Atlantic
JG27_Arklight Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 1:58 PM, Customizer171 said: Distance between the mounting rails are 355 mm, center to center. Thanks! Ark ------------------ Windows 10 Pro x64 9900K @ 5ghz Gigabyte Aorus Master Z390 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB CAS 14 EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra XC2 256gb Samsung 869 Pro (Boot Drive) 1TB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus Seasoninc 1000w Titanium Ultra PSU 34" ASUS PG348
Callsign.Vega Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Yikes the seats on these rigs seem like really cheap foam Chinese gamer seats from Alibaba. I think when I built my setup I will use a high quality automotive seat. 2 GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders
Scott-S6 Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 4:18 AM, Callsign.Vega said: Yikes the seats on these rigs seem like really cheap foam Chinese gamer seats from Alibaba. I think when I built my setup I will use a high quality automotive seat. Having pulled apart the cushions to try and improve them I can say it's not the foam that is the problem. It is a decent dense foam, not the terrible stuff that squashes flat with no effort. There are other problems with the design of the seat...
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