The secret to navigate the Suez Channel?

[cfrag]

I'm trying to get my first 'tourist' mission across the Sinai Map, and the Roosevelt is one of the ships that I want to naviage the channel.

My ham-fisted approach is obviously unfit for this, as try as I might, I can't get that unit past the first bifurcation, it seemingly runs aground in the middle of the channel just south of Qantara West.

Can some kind of soul point me to my error here? Is the Suez Canal even shippable for the Roose?

 

Edited June 9, 2023 by cfrag

[GrafRotz]

i tried the same with Forrestal from the south. It turns right away from the course to the next waypoint and stops like Nevergreen

 

[OnReTech]

4 hours ago, cfrag said:

I'm trying to get my first 'tourist' mission across the Sinai Map, and the Roosevelt is one of the ships that I want to naviage the channel.

My ham-fisted approach is obviously unfit for this, as try as I might, I can't get that unit past the first bifurcation, it seemingly runs aground in the middle of the channel just south of Qantara West.

Can some kind of soul point me to my error here? Is the Suez Canal even shippable for the Roose?

 

 

AI ships are very sensitive to shore collision. It's not about depth. Try adding more points at the corners.

I had the same when I tested the ships

or send me the mission file, I can look and check again.

[Bluto74]

Got further in with 7 knots but can't make the turns.

 

[OnReTech]

nullAs far as I know, in DCS for AI ships, you need to draw a very accurate path, not just 2 points, in ME needed exact path.

[Backy 51]

I successfully transited the Teddy Roosevelt through the Suez Canal.  Comply with the orange buoy channel markers and keep your speed below 15 knots. Transit took 5 hours ... 

[okopanja]

48 minutes ago, Backy 51 said:

I successfully transited the Teddy Roosevelt through the Suez Canal.  Comply with the orange buoy channel markers and keep your speed below 15 knots. Transit took 5 hours ... 

Well done!

[Rodeo]

13 hours ago, Backy 51 said:

I successfully transited the Teddy Roosevelt through the Suez Canal.  Comply with the orange buoy channel markers and keep your speed below 15 knots. Transit took 5 hours ... 

 

[Jakko]

17 hours ago, Backy 51 said:

I successfully transited the Teddy Roosevelt through the Suez Canal.  Comply with the orange buoy channel markers and keep your speed below 15 knots. Transit took 5 hours ... 

what does that mean? can you share a screenshot of the ME?

[3000 Black Jets of Allah]

I got the Forrestal to transit fine, I stuck to the realistic speed of 8 knots and it takes 11 hours to fully transit which is also realistic. I've attached the .miz as well.

Forrestal Suez.miz

[western_JPN]

3 hours ago, Jakko said:

what does that mean? can you share a screenshot of the ME?

In game, there are the buoys.

Hard to find in ME.

Then I posted this request --- 

 

[Jakko]

thanks for the answer.

i have tried many things. but as soon as my carrier enters the channel from the north, it makes a right turn and gets stuck.

this happens even when i am already spawning in the channel.

[79Au]

@Jakko: It's not easy, unfortunately. Make sure your waypoints aren't too close together. It can cause this behavior. AG-51_Bluto's drawing should work. The hardest parts of the canal taught me sometimes all it takes is to move the waypoint by a couple feet and suddenly it works. Remember ships "pass" their waypoints a bit early, and immediately begin to steer towards the next one, causing them to cut corners depending on the geometry of the path.

Basically all you have to do is place ample waypoints (40-50) and keep the course changes between each one at a minimum. Again, the ships don't strictly follow the ME line/path, but in general it's enough to set the waypoints in the middle of the canal. 1 waypoint per 10 degrees of curvature, at least 1500 ft apart. (edit: Oh and don't forget to choose the right speed before placing 50 waypoints)

Works for the Seawise Giant

Edited June 12, 2023 by 79Au

[western_JPN]

15 hours ago, Jakko said:

i have tried many things. but as soon as my carrier enters the channel from the north, it makes a right turn and gets stuck.

Here is my mission CVN-74 from North.

 

cvn74n_Suez_sinai_20230612.miz

[MIghtymoo]

Would have been nice if it was possible to treat the canal as a "road", same way as vehicles traveling on roads where the route snaps to the road.

No way I am going to spend hours in the ME getting a handful vessels safely through the canal by tweaking waypoints over and over again. 

[Jakko]

On 6/12/2023 at 9:32 AM, western_JPN said:

Here is my mission CVN-74 from North.

 

cvn74n_Suez_sinai_20230612.miz 10.4 kB · 2 downloads

the problem also seems to be related to the speed. if i reduce the speed to 6kt in your mission as i did in mine. then your carrier will also come off course.

[cfrag]

Thank you all for your kind assistance in this matter. The hint with the buoys was crucial, and the speed limit. Below is a mission that has the Samwise Giant navigate the Suez successfully, marks all orange buoys for better orientation on the map (ME only), and also populates the entire Suez Canal with ships based on Samwise's path.

Suez Populated.miz

[Rudel_chw]

Thank you all  for the tips and sample missions… I will convert them into Static Templates, so that I can more easily add these ships onto my missions 

 

Edit: Just added these to my Templates library .. its unfortunate that Static Templates can't contain triggers, so I had to save cfrag's scripts as lua files and then store them alongside the Template so I can add them manually whenever I use this particular template.

 

 

Thank you everyone, for sharing .. it truly will save a lot of time on my future missions

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Rudel_chw