ViFF Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) The Israeli community have been given permission by the IAF to use declassified pages from the Approach and Departure Notes volume of the IAF bases. These are mostly the approach and departure charts. The airbase schematic charts remain classified so they are not allowed to be shared and therefore not included in this link, with an exception given by the IAF to share airport schematic charts of Ovda and Sde-Dov which have or used to have both military and civilian traffic so these two are allowed to be shared and included in the link. The following have been uploaded: Ovda, Sde-Dov. I have also included the ISRAEL AIP which is a very good civilian resource for all the enroute charts, navaids, details of major landmarks, and it has very detailed civilian schematics of Haifa, Eilat (the new one) and Ben Gurion airport. This doc is very good for checking all the small details of the civilian airports, especialy Ben-Gurion airport. I have uploaded to the following link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1l5l29BGmDb-hgvnv74WJsf_YZ7vN6ImP?usp=sharing Additionaly, the full Domestic AIP of Israel with more details and maps is available but it is mostly in Hebrew: https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/guide/aip/he/aip_Full Pamat 1-23.pdf Cheers! Edited June 10, 2023 by ViFF 7 14 IAF.ViFF http://www.preflight.us Israel's Combat Flight Sim Community Website
Nealius Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 Are instrument procedures like this followed at all times, even VFR, or only for IFR flights?
razo+r Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Nealius said: Are instrument procedures like this followed at all times, even VFR, or only for IFR flights? Normally, VFR Flights use seperate approach and departure routes since most VFR only certified aircraft lack the instrumentation to follow the IFR routes. However, instrument procedures may also be flown in VMC of course. 1
Nealius Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 I guess we lost the approach/departure plates for all the other airfields? No way to remove the airfield schematics and reupload them?
OnReTech Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nicksabre73 said: Here you go! I understand correctly that I can add them to the Sinai module, because this is public access? 2
Nicksabre73 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, OnReTech said: I understand correctly that I can add them to the Sinai module, because this is public access? sure;-) 1 2
Recoil16 Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 On 6/14/2023 at 3:54 PM, OnReTech said: I understand correctly that I can add them to the Sinai module, because this is public access? On 6/14/2023 at 4:39 PM, Nicksabre73 said: sure;-) I wouldn't be so sure. SkyVector, and likely some of the other maps and charts there are copyrighted and not freely licensed or in the public domain. Everybody said: "That's impossible!" Then someone came along who didn't know that and just did it. Flying the A-10C for the 107th Joint Aviation Squadron Developing and creating missions for Through The Inferno Join the TTI Discord
Thx1137 Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Recoil16 said: I wouldn't be so sure. SkyVector, and likely some of the other maps and charts there are copyrighted and not freely licensed or in the public domain. I agree. I certainly wouldn't republish them unless I had a copy of the agreement, preferably from the charts owners, to see what exactly is allowed. I would think it would be OK if a sim org could use them freely but best to be sure!
Recoil16 Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Thx1137 said: I would think it would be OK if a sim org could use them freely but best to be sure! I wouldn't really be concerned with sim organizations (like virtual squadrons) using them without proper licensing, likely nobody is gonna care. But shipping them as part of a commercial product would be another thing. Edited June 24, 2023 by Recoil16 1 Everybody said: "That's impossible!" Then someone came along who didn't know that and just did it. Flying the A-10C for the 107th Joint Aviation Squadron Developing and creating missions for Through The Inferno Join the TTI Discord
ienatom Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 On 6/9/2023 at 10:58 PM, ViFF said: The Israeli community have been given permission by the IAF to use declassified pages from the Approach and Departure Notes volume of the IAF bases. These are mostly the approach and departure charts. The airbase schematic charts remain classified so they are not allowed to be shared and therefore not included in this link, with an exception given by the IAF to share airport schematic charts of Ovda and Sde-Dov which have or used to have both military and civilian traffic so these two are allowed to be shared and included in the link. The following have been uploaded: Ovda, Sde-Dov. I have also included the ISRAEL AIP which is a very good civilian resource for all the enroute charts, navaids, details of major landmarks, and it has very detailed civilian schematics of Haifa, Eilat (the new one) and Ben Gurion airport. This doc is very good for checking all the small details of the civilian airports, especialy Ben-Gurion airport. I have uploaded to the following link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1l5l29BGmDb-hgvnv74WJsf_YZ7vN6ImP?usp=sharing Additionaly, the full Domestic AIP of Israel with more details and maps is available but it is mostly in Hebrew: https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/guide/aip/he/aip_Full Pamat 1-23.pdf Cheers! Great job man, thanks for sharing. FYI the AIP link is now broken though. I have a question regarding some frequencies used on the fighter plates: are those coded channels or something? Because some of them are way out of the VHF or UHF radio bands used in our fighters. For example: the Ramon ground frequency is 117 and the approach is 165. Does anyone know what they stand for in MHz? CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, RAM: 4x16GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 CL16, GPU: Gigabyte RX6800XT Aorus Master, MB: Gigabyte X570 Aorus ultra My userfile content is available here (liveries, mods and whatnot)
Recoil16 Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 4 hours ago, ienatom said: FYI the AIP link is now broken though. The latest domestic AIP can always be found here: https://www.gov.il/he/Departments/Guides/aip?chapterIndex=1 The link in question says "פמ"ת בקובץ יחיד - הורדה" ("PMT in a single file - download", according to Google Translate). That being said, the current direct link to the PDF is here: https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/guide/aip/he/aip_Full PAMAT 3-23.pdf 1 1 Everybody said: "That's impossible!" Then someone came along who didn't know that and just did it. Flying the A-10C for the 107th Joint Aviation Squadron Developing and creating missions for Through The Inferno Join the TTI Discord
Silderoy Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 On 1/2/2024 at 5:38 PM, ienatom said: I have a question regarding some frequencies used on the fighter plates: are those coded channels or something? Because some of them are way out of the VHF or UHF radio bands used in our fighters. For example: the Ramon ground frequency is 117 and the approach is 165. Does anyone know what they stand for in MHz? These are coded, as you said. they are not specific freq but more like presets, who represent the actual freq. the actual frequencies are obviously classified.
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