misa想变猫猫娘 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Before today's update, everything in my game was normal, but after updating open beta version 2.8.6.41363, the screen will freeze for about 1 to 2 seconds every few tens of seconds in VR mode. This is frustrating and I don't know what the problem is. My system is windows11 , the processor is intel i7 12700H, and the graphics card is 4060ti I'll just put the log here dcs.log 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Hi. Please make a dxdiag.log and attach it here. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miro Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) For me on flatscreen too... Once when I turn it on everything works, other times it freezes for a few seconds and then lets go, often it happens when I'm looking at the map. After launching the game, I do a test, go to the mission editor and on the weapon screen I spin the plane, if it cuts out, I restart DCS, I thought it was something with my computer. I should add that this only happens on HT. I'll throw in a DX diag, and dcs log from session where freezes occurs. Win 11, 13900KF, 4090, 64 DDR5 DxDiag.txt dcs.log Edited June 23, 2023 by Miro 2 :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 @Miro I can't find anything wrong in your logs. When you say it freezes, does it look like a black screen? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miro Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Flappie said: @Miro I can't find anything wrong in your logs. When you say it freezes, does it look like a black screen? No, sim freezes for second, and runs normal, after couple of seconds freezes again, and unfreeze, looks like randomly freezing, unfreezing. After DCS restart, situation repeats, or not. I'll already do slow repair etc. Here's a short video, i constantly moving aircraft left/right, and map zoomout/zoomin: Edited June 23, 2023 by Miro :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Consider testing these solutions: Ensure DCS is installed on an SSD, not an HDD. Go to "C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta", and empty both "fxo" and "metashaders2" folders. Empty "C:\Users\your_login\AppData\Local\NVIDIA" folder. Disable Fullscreen Optimization in DCS.exe properties. Windows power management settings: select High or Max Performance. Disable Windows GPU Scheduling. Open your antivirus settings and add and exception for ".../DCS World (OpenBeta)/". In DCS: ensure ingame V-Sync is disabled (if you need V-Sync, change your graphics driver settings, see below). In DCS: ensure ingame SSAO is disabled. NVIDIA panel: Disable Threaded Optimization in the NVIDIA settings NVIDIA panel: Activate "Fast sync" (only if you want V-Sync). NVIDIA panel: set Power Management Mode to Maximum performance NVIDIA panel: disable MFAA NVIDIA panel: disable FXAA NVIDIA panel: disable AA transparency NVIDIA panel: disable Gamma Correction Close Ryzer Synapse, MSI Afterburner, Aorus or any other gamer-oriented software before starting DCS. 6 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miro Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I got SSAO enabled, will try to disable, but with previous patch everything runs perfect. :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miro Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I got SSAO enabled, will try to disable, but with previous patch everything runs perfect. EDIT: Nothing helps, just need to wait for another patch... 3 :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) I see a similar problem. After the last update DCS (MT, OB) can get freez during logging or even inside a game. This has not happened to me before, and it appeared after the update with the F-15E. It's hard for me to say why. There are such momentary stutters, exactly as in the video above. I've now removed all mods (even though it was working fine with them) and I see it works normally now. I need to check it deeper, for now I gave the Repair all files / slow option. We'll see. Edited June 25, 2023 by YoYo 5 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miro Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, YoYo said: I see a similar problem. After the last update DCS (MT, OB) can get freez during logging or even inside a game. This has not happened to me before, and it appeared after the update with the F-15E. It's hard for me to say why. There are such momentary stutters, exactly as in the video above. I've now removed all mods (even though it was working fine with them) and I see it works normally now. I need to check it deeper, for now I gave the Repair all files / slow option. We'll see. For me, it can work all day, and it can break down during the flight, unexpectedly. Sometimes I don't even see it from the cockpit that it broke down, and I turn on the map and clipping begins. I've tried everything, I'm flying now on Single Thread, because it works good. :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 This also applied to zooming the screen (Fast ZOOM IN), sometimes freez appeared when zooming. Btw. After repair it's ok till now, but I only ran DCS 3-4 times yesterday and it was fine. We'll see Today. Btw. 1/ I need to check if i have exclusion in my antivirus and Defender for DCS-MT 2/ from what I can see, it's better not to run DCS as administrator (and I have it checked) Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breetai Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Same issue here, sometimes it's fine though. I will mostly see this in the main menu in VR for a few minutes right after I start DCS. 4 Windows 11, 13900K, Maximus Hero Z690, ASUS 4090 TUF OC, 64GB DDR5 6000, DCS on dedicated 1TB NVMe, Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzer1977 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 4:36 PM, misa想变猫猫娘 said: Before today's update, everything in my game was normal, but after updating open beta version 2.8.6.41363, the screen will freeze for about 1 to 2 seconds every few tens of seconds in VR mode. This is frustrating and I don't know what the problem is. My system is windows11 , the processor is intel i7 12700H, and the graphics card is 4060ti I'll just put the log here dcs.log 43.58 kB · 7 downloads Have you tried to reduce the sync rate on the goggles? I have a similar issue with the Reverb G2 going blank for a few seconds, especially when i run it at 90 Hz snd DCS is under stress. Doesn't happen that often when running in 60 Hz. 1 AMD Ryzen 9 5950x, MSI MEG x570 Unify, G.Skill 128GB DDR4-3200, MSI RTX3090 Ventus 3x 24GB, Samsung PCIe 4.0 M.2 1TB 980 Pro, Seagate PCIe 4.0 M.2 2TB FireCuda 520, Quest 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobymaru Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I have the same issue on flatscreen, first time playing since the latest update. Happens when I enable the F10 map, scroll or zoom around on it. But also sometimes in flight. Crashed into the ground a few times lol. Memory usage is really high on 4YA multiplayer server (up to 50 GB of private bytes), but I can't tell if that's the reason. Sometimes it freezes even if the physical memory isn't full. CPU: Intel 12700K RAM: 32GB DDR5 Page file: 48GB on SSD GPU: NVIDIA RTX 3080 Install is on SSD Using Multithreaded Build DxDiag.txtdcs.log4YA_Cau_PVE2_V2.52[01_MAY_FEW]-20230627-192831.trk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazzy_rusian Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Same issue for me since the latest update. There are some small staters in flight too. Especially with KA-50 3 module. It seems there is some problem with P-cores, E-cores processors. Edited June 28, 2023 by Crazzy_rusian 3 i7 12700k, 32gb RAM, 3080 10gb, SSD 1Tb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Im thinking still it is somehow related to the loading & closing issue, both cases came up in this last update. This micro freez is quite hard to document because sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not. Mostly when I saw it, I restarted DCS (unfortunately hard reset from software manager) and then it was ok again. As if there are additional unnecessary background processes going on. Im on DCS MT only. Now for 2-3 days it was ok, and yesterday I saw it again, despite the previous slow, full DCS repair. Something is wrong, and I believe the two are related. 2 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoleUK Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Same experience here, lots of freezing and stuttering on various menu screens in VR, as well as the aforementioned longer initial startup time. Takes a while to settle down when first loading the game, then bringing up role selection etc can cause further freezing/stuttering during gameplay. This freezing/stuttering is significantly reduced by running it in the oculus runtime via VD as opposed to OpenXR via link, not sure if that's relevant or not but sticking with the oculus runtime for now. I also found running it on OpenXR via SteamVR on VD was significantly worse than Oculus on VD, so there might be something about OpenXR that is causing problems. Edited June 28, 2023 by MoleUK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) dcs.logdcs.log 2 logs with this stutter in menu. Hope it helps to fix it. Doesn't matter if it's with mods or not. Engine effect. Edited June 28, 2023 by YoYo 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) ... and after this I opened ST version, no issue. File for comparison. dcs.log Edited June 28, 2023 by YoYo Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Hi @YoYo. I'm comparing your files right now. Are you aware you're not using the same startup arguments? ST 2023-06-28 18:50:56.661 INFO APP (Main): Command line: "S:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe" --force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR MT 2023-06-28 18:37:19.971 INFO APP (Main): Command line: "S:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\DCS.exe" --force_enable_VR In both logs, there are IC failure messages. Have you tried a DCS cleanup and repair yet? 2023-06-28 18:38:13.822 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:13.822 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:DIRECTX11=true;FFX_SOFT_PARTICLES;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.831 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapultcomp.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:13.831 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/steamcatapultcomp.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapultcomp.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.916 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:ADDITIVE_GLOW;DIRECTX11=true;FFX_SOFT_PARTICLES;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.925 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/landingsmoke.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:13.925 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/landingsmoke.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/landingsmoke.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.988 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.175 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/overwingvapor.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.257 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/waterexplosion.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.257 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/waterexplosion.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/waterexplosion.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.322 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:ADDITIVE_GLOW;DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.364 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/cbuexplosion.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.364 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/cbuexplosion.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/cbuexplosion.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.416 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapult.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.416 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/steamcatapult.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapult.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.434 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.434 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.594 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx:DIRECTX11=true;PUFF_SOFT_PARTICLES;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.614 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/gunsmoke.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.614 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/gunsmoke.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/gunsmoke.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.734 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/cloud.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.761 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/gpuexplosion.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.913 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/posteffects/lenseffect.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.913 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader posteffects/lenseffect.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/posteffects/lenseffect.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.966 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/smoke.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.967 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/smoke.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/smoke.fx is modified. ... 2023-06-28 18:38:44.431 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7132): IC fail: /textures/caponir_1_ext_trava @ bazar/textures/buildings_sum.zip More errors I don't see in my own MT log: 2023-06-28 18:38:15.884 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegl.anim. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.893 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegl/overrides.lua. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.893 ERROR ANIMATOR (7724): can not load override ... 2023-06-28 18:38:15.910 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegr.anim. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.919 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegr/overrides.lua. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.919 ERROR ANIMATOR (7724): can not load override ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.233 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/shiptrail.lua ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.274 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/groundpuff.lua 2023-06-28 18:38:16.274 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (11904): IC fail: /textures/puff01 @ bazar/effects/particlesystem2 ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.342 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/staticsmoke.lua 2023-06-28 18:38:16.345 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (20060): IC fail: /textures/puff_clouds @ bazar/effects/particlesystem2 2023-06-28 18:38:16.354 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/steamcatapult.lua 2023-06-28 18:38:16.359 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (10784): IC fail: /textures/overwingvapor @ bazar/effects/particlesystem2 ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.372 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (20056): IC fail: /textures/voronka_beton @ bazar/temptextures 2023-06-28 18:38:16.372 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (9244): IC fail: /textures/voronka_roughmet @ bazar/temptextures ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.373 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (20368): IC fail: /textures/voronka @ bazar/temptextures 2023-06-28 18:38:16.373 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (17664): IC fail: /textures/voronka_normal @ bazar/temptextures ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.374 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (18564): IC fail: /textures/voronka_beton_roughmet @ bazar/temptextures 2023-06-28 18:38:16.374 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (11320): IC fail: /textures/voronka_beton_normal @ bazar/temptextures 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. 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YoYo Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Flappie said: Hi @YoYo. I'm comparing your files right now. Are you aware you're not using the same startup arguments? ST 2023-06-28 18:50:56.661 INFO APP (Main): Command line: "S:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe" --force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR MT 2023-06-28 18:37:19.971 INFO APP (Main): Command line: "S:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\DCS.exe" --force_enable_VR In both logs, there are IC failure messages. Have you tried a DCS cleanup and repair yet? 2023-06-28 18:38:13.822 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:13.822 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:DIRECTX11=true;FFX_SOFT_PARTICLES;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.831 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapultcomp.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:13.831 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/steamcatapultcomp.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapultcomp.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.916 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:ADDITIVE_GLOW;DIRECTX11=true;FFX_SOFT_PARTICLES;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.925 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/landingsmoke.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:13.925 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/landingsmoke.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/landingsmoke.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:13.988 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.175 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/overwingvapor.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.257 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/waterexplosion.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.257 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/waterexplosion.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/waterexplosion.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.322 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/ffx.fx:ADDITIVE_GLOW;DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.364 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/cbuexplosion.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.364 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/cbuexplosion.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/cbuexplosion.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.416 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapult.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.416 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/steamcatapult.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/steamcatapult.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.434 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.434 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.594 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx:DIRECTX11=true;PUFF_SOFT_PARTICLES;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/groundpuff.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.614 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/gunsmoke.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.614 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/gunsmoke.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/gunsmoke.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.734 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/cloud.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.761 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/gpuexplosion.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/common/clustershading.hlsl is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.913 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/posteffects/lenseffect.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.913 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader posteffects/lenseffect.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/posteffects/lenseffect.fx is modified. 2023-06-28 18:38:14.966 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: /shaders/particlesystem2/smoke.fx @ bazar/shaders 2023-06-28 18:38:14.967 WARNING DX11BACKEND (7724): Shader particlesystem2/smoke.fx:DIRECTX11=true;USE_DCS_DEFERRED=1; is outdated as file /shaders/particlesystem2/smoke.fx is modified. ... 2023-06-28 18:38:44.431 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7132): IC fail: /textures/caponir_1_ext_trava @ bazar/textures/buildings_sum.zip More errors I don't see in my own MT log: 2023-06-28 18:38:15.884 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegl.anim. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.893 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegl/overrides.lua. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.893 ERROR ANIMATOR (7724): can not load override ... 2023-06-28 18:38:15.910 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegr.anim. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.919 ERROR EDCORE (7724): Can't open file: /animations/typegr/overrides.lua. 2023-06-28 18:38:15.919 ERROR ANIMATOR (7724): can not load override ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.233 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/shiptrail.lua ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.274 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/groundpuff.lua 2023-06-28 18:38:16.274 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (11904): IC fail: /textures/puff01 @ bazar/effects/particlesystem2 ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.342 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/staticsmoke.lua 2023-06-28 18:38:16.345 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (20060): IC fail: /textures/puff_clouds @ bazar/effects/particlesystem2 2023-06-28 18:38:16.354 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (7724): IC fail: config/effects/particlesystem2/steamcatapult.lua 2023-06-28 18:38:16.359 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (10784): IC fail: /textures/overwingvapor @ bazar/effects/particlesystem2 ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.372 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (20056): IC fail: /textures/voronka_beton @ bazar/temptextures 2023-06-28 18:38:16.372 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (9244): IC fail: /textures/voronka_roughmet @ bazar/temptextures ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.373 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (20368): IC fail: /textures/voronka @ bazar/temptextures 2023-06-28 18:38:16.373 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (17664): IC fail: /textures/voronka_normal @ bazar/temptextures ... 2023-06-28 18:38:16.374 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (18564): IC fail: /textures/voronka_beton_roughmet @ bazar/temptextures 2023-06-28 18:38:16.374 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL (11320): IC fail: /textures/voronka_beton_normal @ bazar/temptextures Thx. About this: ST 2023-06-28 18:50:56.661 INFO APP (Main): Command line: "S:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe" --force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR MT 2023-06-28 18:37:19.971 INFO APP (Main): Command line: "S:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\DCS.exe" --force_enable_VR Its not issue, this is the intended action. ST forced OpenXR option, otherwise it works as SteamVR (OVR) while the MT version works only as OpenXR so you don't need to add a separate tip at the end. However, you have to compare OpenXR to OpenXR, not SteamVR. About the rest. I did repair, but not clean up, will try it too. 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miro Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) @Flappie I've tried literally everything, even reinstalling the entire DCS, brand new dcsopenbeta folder, literally everything. (i'm on flatscreen) Edited June 29, 2023 by Miro 3 :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grodin Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) Happy to know i'm not the only one. Before latest ob patch everything was good, now loading times are quite long and menus are a stutter fest. I'm on 13900ks and 3090. Tried every tip in this topic except complete reinstall to no avail. Edited June 29, 2023 by Grodin 2 Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Can you please send in your process list? Run this command in a "cmd" window: tasklist > c:\users\public\list.txt Then attach the resulting file here. 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Flappie said: Can you please send in your process list? Run this command in a "cmd" window: tasklist > c:\users\public\list.txt Then attach the resulting file here. Ok, but when DCS is "on" or after the exit? I'll add it again when I'll have this issue again. I did a cleanup + slow repair, so far it was good, but this effect, as I wrote earlier, does not always occur. Once every few starts, more random action for me. Before the last update I never, never, never noticed something like this. Btw. Id like to add that I also turned off the scan of the DCS folder and excluded it from real-time protection (antivirus) but it did nothing. Edited June 30, 2023 by YoYo 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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