Switching to WSO seat?

[H60MTI]

I see I can change seats with the #2 on the keyboard. Can that only happen on the ground or can I do it in the air also with say A/P engaged? I'm smashing the heck out of the 2 and nothing is happening. I jisy want to turn on the targeting pod!

[Yurgon]

Yes, it should work in the air and on the ground.

Check your keybinds under F-15E and F-15E WSO and make sure that the "1" and "2" keys are set to the appropriate command ("Switch to pilot seat" or thereabouts).

Edited June 23, 2023 by Yurgon

[H60MTI]

That was the first thing I did was check the bindings. I can confirm there are as you stated. Am I missing something? Do I need to activate a rear seater or something?

[Yurgon]

8 minutes ago, H60MTI said:

Do I need to activate a rear seater or something?

Ah, possibly yes (and no).

In the Mission Editor there are two options "Solo Flight" and "Disable Multicrew" - maybe you're running a mission that has one of these set?

In INSTANT ACTION -> F-15E -> Caucasus -> Free Flight (Day) I can switch between both seats just fine.

Edited June 23, 2023 by Yurgon

[H60MTI]

Okay...I'll try that. This was on a traing mission. Just got the Eagle yesterday. Might be disabled from Razbam for training. I'll try some free flight and see what happens!

[Trancers]

In the training mission with the MPD and MCPD it´s a solo flight! So you can´t change! 

The others I have not yet looked at

Edited June 23, 2023 by Trancers

[H60MTI]

This was the cold start...Just got the Eagle, I'm learning about the rocket ship Lol I'm jist going assume all the training is solo...

[fullcoupe]

Bringing this thread back up as I am having the same issue. Cold/dark start from a scratch mission.

Here's where I'm confused...

In the keybinds for F-15E_WSO, I have "Occupy Pilot Seat" and "Occupy WSO Seat", set to 1 and 2 respectively.

In my keybinds for F-15E, however, these two keybinds are missing. Nothing even related to WSO when I search all fields.

I've confirmed the solo flight and disable multicrew boxes are unchecked in the mission editor.

Any clues here?

[Noodleholz]

I don't know if it's implemented, but during your start procedure turn on the O² for co-pilot too. Maybe he is dead and that's the reason you can't switch.

[YoYo]

2 hours ago, fullcoupe said:

Bringing this thread back up as I am having the same issue. Cold/dark start from a scratch mission.

Here's where I'm confused...

In the keybinds for F-15E_WSO, I have "Occupy Pilot Seat" and "Occupy WSO Seat", set to 1 and 2 respectively.

In my keybinds for F-15E, however, these two keybinds are missing. Nothing even related to WSO when I search all fields.

I've confirmed the solo flight and disable multicrew boxes are unchecked in the mission editor.

Any clues here?

No any issue for me. Use your own mission, created by you. Some of missions, especially trainings, have a locked second position. Keys 2 & 1 (as buttons as well) works perfect for me to change a position.

12 minutes ago, Noodleholz said:

I don't know if it's implemented, but during your start procedure turn on the O² for co-pilot too. Maybe he is dead and that's the reason you can't switch.

Btw. O2 its a only feature, it has absolutely no effect on the hypoxie or other pilot effects. DCS doesnt simulate it, pity.

[jaylw314]

1 hour ago, YoYo said:

Btw. O2 its a only feature, it has absolutely no effect on the hypoxie or other pilot effects. DCS doesnt simulate it, pity.

It is an effect in a couple modules, the F-14 IIRC and maybe the JF-17?  Haven't heard anyone explicitly mention it one way or the other in the mudhen

Edited July 7, 2023 by jaylw314

[YoYo]

16 minutes ago, jaylw314 said:

It is an effect in a couple modules, the F-14 IIRC and maybe the JF-17?  

It would be nice, but officially nothing like that is happening, it should be forced for every module by DCS engine always. I can fly the Mustang at 30k without a mask and everything is fine .

[Noodleholz]

My pilot died in the Jeff without Oxy, enabled AP at high altitude on Marianas while I've been afk.

[felixx75]

Also the F-86.

[Jayhawk1971]

 

[YoYo]

43 minutes ago, Noodleholz said:

My pilot died in the Jeff without Oxy, enabled AP at high altitude on Marianas while I've been afk.

Nice!

[fullcoupe]

11 hours ago, YoYo said:

No any issue for me. Use your own mission, created by you. Some of missions, especially trainings, have a locked second position. Keys 2 & 1 (as buttons as well) works perfect for me to change a position.

Btw. O2 its a only feature, it has absolutely no effect on the hypoxie or other pilot effects. DCS doesnt simulate it, pity.

Figured this out. I had an old "flyable F-15E" mod that was using the FC3 F-15C key bindings. I removed the mod, the list of key bindings got much longer, as expected. Doh! 

I can now jump into the back seat no problem. 

[YoYo]

15 hours ago, fullcoupe said:

Figured this out. I had an old "flyable F-15E" mod that was using the FC3 F-15C key bindings. I removed the mod, the list of key bindings got much longer, as expected. Doh! 

I can now jump into the back seat no problem. 

Good news. Sometimes I jump to the back with Autopilot ON, only because the view from rear side is very nice  .

Btw. I checked Hypoxia in the model but it isnt present, I added it as the wish:

 

Edited July 8, 2023 by YoYo