unable to reproduce TWS lock procedure. What has changed?

[flavnet]

Hi everyone.
I am pleased to note that every time the program is updated, it is necessary to study procedures that are already widely known again. Really funny!!!
So, up until the DCS 2.9.1.48111 Open Beta update the following is the procedure I used SUCCESSFULLY to engage multiple aerial targets with the F-16C's TWS function:
1) AA mode selection;
2) AIM-120C selection;
3) TWS selection;
4) as soon as all tracks appear on the radar (there are three MIG-29s ahead), TMS right short and all selectable tracks are listed (from solid symbols they become empty);
5) TMS right short again, the closest track is locked;
6) launch of the first AIM-120C;
7) TMS right short again and the second track is locked;
8) launch of the second AIM-120C;
9) last TMS right short and the third track is locked;
10) launch of the third AIM-120C.
At 90% all bandits were shot down.
After the last update, with the first TMS right short I can only select and hook the first bandit. The other two, although visible on the radar in TWS mode, are not selected (their symbol remains solid). Then, after launching the first AIM-120C, I have to switch to the RWS and manually lock on the remaining targets (making the TWS useless!!!).
The question is: what happened?!?!
Is this a bug or has the TWS target selection process changed?
Thank you in advance for your kind attention.

Edited November 21, 2023 by flavnet

[BIGNEWY]

Hi we will check. 

But please in the future attach a short track replay example so we can check what you are seeing and try to reproduce. 

thank you

[Lord Vader]

Hi @flavnet

I am unable to reproduce the issue. I pressed TMS-Right short and it correctly turned all targets in range into system files in TWS mode.

Please check your key assignments and let us know if you still have a problem by adding a short track with the issue occurring. 

[skywalker22]

Make sure targets are type of Track and not Search. Search targets are smaller solid squares, while Track targets are bigger solid squares. 

For me it works all just fine. You can designate up to 6 targets and circle between them in TWS.

Edited November 21, 2023 by skywalker22

[buceador]

It seems to work as is...

TWS check.trk

[Keith Briscoe]

1 hour ago, skywalker22 said:

Make sure targets are type of Track and not Search. Track targets are smaller solid squares, which Track targets are bigger solid squares. 

For me it works all just fine. You can designate up to 6 targets and circle between them in TWS.

Maybe a typo... "search" targets are the small ones, right?  

[skywalker22]

1 hour ago, Keith Briscoe said:

Maybe a typo... "search" targets are the small ones, right?  

indeed, it was indeed a type, fixed it. Nice catch

[flavnet]

First of all, thank you all for your contributions and help. You are truly fantastic!
The problem is precisely that in TWS mode you have to wait for all the tracks to go from Search to Track (in the first case they are represented by small solid squares, then they become larger solid squares) and it is exactly at this moment that you press TMS right short (see point 4 of my list). Then, the tracks will become empty squares and the first missile can be launched.
Everything OK. The Migs are all fried!

[skywalker22]

11 minutes ago, flavnet said:

First of all, thank you all for your contributions and help. You are truly fantastic!
The problem is precisely that in TWS mode you have to wait for all the tracks to go from Search to Track (in the first case they are represented by small solid squares, then they become larger solid squares) and it is exactly at this moment that you press TMS right short (see point 4 of my list). Then, the tracks will become empty squares and the first missile can be launched.
Everything OK. The Migs are all fried!

Hehe, we are trying, I was in the same spot 3 years ago

Anyway, this is not the "problem", you just have to understand it takes time that a radar picks the same target multiple times while scanning, to make sure to get all the data required and to show correctly on FCR screen (on MFD). Put simply: track targets contain multiple data, which takes few swings of the radar over it, during scanning. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by skywalker22