badger7966 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I hear that we are getting the AGM-154 in the next update. This thing has a range of 70 odd miles with a random spread pattern.....I was watching some DCS F-16 vids....this is an awesome capability to have especially against SAM sites and light targets. As far as I can tell the 97 puc monster had difficulties and was abandoned. There is another version with a hardened bomb housed inside.....that would be nice too. I took a look on youtube for some Mudhen AGM vids bt nothing yet...Maybe on How I Play channel soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 The AGM-154C it's only for the navy. The AGM-154A it's useless in DCS, BLU-97 fly away with the wind. Very unreliable weapon. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger7966 Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 I understood we are not getting the 154 with 97 skeets....more an 87 light armour type skeet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quailman84 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 It will be the 154A. They can be rather useful against SAM sites in my experience IF the burst height is set low. I usually set it to 400 ft and target the tracking radar. It will usually kill the radar and two or three launchers and/or support vehicles depending on how spread out the site is. Lower burst height keeps the bomblet pattern closer together and reduces any wind effects. With heavy armor they are pretty useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vctpil Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 If it not destroyed by the SAM itself. IAMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12x 3.7 to 4.8Ghz - 32Go DDR4 3600Mhz - GeForce RTX 3080 - Samsung Odyssey G7 QLED - AIMXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quailman84 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, vctpil said: If it not destroyed by the SAM itself. Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, badger7966 said: I understood we are not getting the 154 with 97 skeets....more an 87 light armour type skeet ? AGM-154A uses BLU-97 which are not CBU-97 Edited December 16, 2023 by Ignition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire13 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 13 hours ago, quailman84 said: It will be the 154A. They can be rather useful against SAM sites in my experience IF the burst height is set low. I usually set it to 400 ft and target the tracking radar. It will usually kill the radar and two or three launchers and/or support vehicles depending on how spread out the site is. Lower burst height keeps the bomblet pattern closer together and reduces any wind effects. With heavy armor they are pretty useless. Unfortunately, there is no way to set burst height for your wingmen or AI flights, so any JSOW-As deployed by them are essentially useless, even against softer targets like radars. It is the same issue as the CBU-87, where default burst height is set at an altitude where the bomblets either drift too far off course due to wind, or disperse over so large an area they are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Starfire13 said: Unfortunately, there is no way to set burst height for your wingmen or AI flights, so any JSOW-As deployed by them are essentially useless, even against softer targets like radars. It is the same issue as the CBU-87, where default burst height is set at an altitude where the bomblets either drift too far off course due to wind, or disperse over so large an area they are useless. If I'm not mistaken, the BLU-97 in the CBU-87 don't have drag chutes so they are more useful since they drift is less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog 762 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 I thought these were coming out this week since BD rushed them into the manual. Didn't happen? System: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 5 Ghz, Z-390 Gaming X, 64Gb DDR4-3200, EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3, Dedicated SSD, HP Reverb G2, Winwing Orion & F-16EX DCS Modules: A-10C II, A/V-8B NA, Bf-109 K4, P-51D, P-47D, F/A-18C, F-14 A/B, F-16 CM, F-86F, JF-17, KA-50 Black Shark 2, UH-1H, Mosquito, AH-64D Longbow Terrains & Tech: Caucasus, Persian Gulf, Normandy, Syria, Nevada, The Channel, Combined Arms, WWII Assets, Supercarrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mad Dog 762 said: I thought these were coming out this week since BD rushed them into the manual. Didn't happen? There hasn't been an update yet... But soon™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger7966 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Its supposed to be any minute now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 vor 14 Minuten schrieb badger7966: Its supposed to be any minute now. nah its postponed to wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger7966 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Seriously ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papanowel Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, badger7966 said: Seriously ? Yes, it is: Edited December 18, 2023 by Papanowel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Can only carry 5 JSOWs? I'm happy to have them of course, but I thought it would at least match the Hornet. Oh well, not a big deal. Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenkom Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 How to set burst height? Manual only says same as other jdams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger7966 Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 I tried to set them up like a JDAM...but I could not change the station.....there was no cue on the HUD.....I thought they wre set up like a JDAM ? Any hints please..... Master arm on.....Profile selected as PROG 1.....with 154 highlighted.....fuse set to N/T,this might be an issue ??? This module is getting better and better !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I set them up like a JDAM on the Tpod, no height, and they worked. Except when they didn't. If I had all five loaded, sometimes 2 of them just sat there asleep and would not even accept the coordinates. Probably something I'm doing wrong. But I mostly got them fire and go "Boom!" pretty easy. Definitely need the broach version. That would be my puppy of choice. Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger7966 Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Whats the Broach version ?....and does the F-15E carry them ? Maybe they are a little buggy..... no problem...it will be sorted.Ill keep trying until I get them to go BOOM !! Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, badger7966 said: Whats the Broach version ?....and does the F-15E carry them ? Maybe they are a little buggy..... no problem...it will be sorted.Ill keep trying until I get them to go BOOM !! Thank you. The broach version is the one with the big fat warhead instead of CBUs. The F-18 carries the broach and I can't imagine why F-15E wouldn't, but who knows. Might be some Navy vs Air Force weirdness. Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfr Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Beirut said: The broach version is the one with the big fat warhead instead of CBUs. The F-18 carries the broach and I can't imagine why F-15E wouldn't, but who knows. Might be some Navy vs Air Force weirdness. It is exactly that. Only the Navy ever bought them (hence the Viper also only got the A version). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, bfr said: It is exactly that. Only the Navy ever bought them (hence the Viper also only got the A version). Bummer. I like the "Kaboom!" of the broach version. Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfr Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beirut said: Bummer. I like the "Kaboom!" of the broach version. Me too. I assume it might be possible to enable it in single player, although haven't tried as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quailman84 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 So is there a way to set burst height? I haven't been able to figure it out. Is it not modeled yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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