eFirehawk Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Hi everyone, A little light-hearted question that I've been thinking about these days... given the lack of dynamic campaign and poor AI, especially for ground units with terminator aimbots, I decided to enjoy DCS by doing similar, just flight related tasks in all modules that I own ( little to no combat ) - as VR just gave a completely new life to it. This way I haven't been burnt out and always keep learning something new. Although my main jet is the F-15E ( taking about 80% of my flight time, and the Jeff the remaining 20% ), one of the challenges I set for myself is to become 'reliable' in air refueling in all modules that I own ( SU-33, A-10, F-14 15 16 18, JF-17, M-2000 and F1 ), and how I feel regarding the known difficult planes to do AAR in. Nearly all of them became a piece of cake by now, even the Harrier. The A-10 still gives me some trouble due to weird visibility, but I'm getting the hang of it. The F-14 however, has been giving me some grief and I wanted to know if anyone else feels the same. In VR, the canopy bow seems to be very inconveniently placed in a way that perfectly blocks me from having a decent view of the refuel pod and engines of the tanker. If I do the refueling looking mostly to the side, I sometimes drift off and disconnect from the probe by moving too far horizontally. Basically in order to achieve a perfect refuel session I have to keep absolutely extreme focus, bobbing my head around the canopy to see stuff. It can't be that it feels like second nature in other jets but just in this one I feel tired after just a few minutes. There are some unorthodox solutions that I've used but I don't believe they are realistic, such as going low to the point that the refuel pod is completely above the canopy - this makes refuel very easy as long as I'm aware that I'm edging the lowest possible position that the drogue can go. What are your thoughts on this? HB's Tomcat cockpit is modeled to perfection, so could this be an issue of my VR head position? Or are there accounts of real pilots commenting on this too? 1 Pentium II 233Mhz | 16MB RAM | 14.4kb Modem | 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive | Windows 3.1 with TM Warthog & TrackIR 5
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 5 hours ago, eFirehawk said: In VR, the canopy bow seems to be very inconveniently placed Yes it is, but even then I still find the F-14 the easiest aircraft in DCS to do aerial refuelling with. Moving the seat down can help, but I personally just leave it at my default position and lean forward instead - that works quite well 1 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
RustBelt Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Look at almost any picture of a pilot flying an F-14 and they’re hunched forward. 1
bonesvf103 Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 I also hunch forward and just rely on the sight picture and I plug every time. v6, boNes 1 "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
MAXsenna Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Which tanker? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
eFirehawk Posted December 29, 2023 Author Posted December 29, 2023 Thanks guys. So far the conclusion then is: Keep hunched forward and yes, it is a thing they do in the real jet too apparently. @MAXsenna KC-135 MPRS 1 Pentium II 233Mhz | 16MB RAM | 14.4kb Modem | 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive | Windows 3.1 with TM Warthog & TrackIR 5
RustBelt Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Yea, the F-16’s canopy was a big deal for a reason. 1
2circle Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 Lowering the seat substantially helps a lot. As does approaching the basket from well below and to the left of it and then making a very slight move up and right as you close on it in the endgame. Unlike in the Hornet when you can get directly behind the basket and just fly straight into it. Good luck! 1 F-18C/F-14/P-51/F-86 Pico4/Quest2 VR with Intel Core i9 3.0GHZ 24 -Core, 16GB, GeForce RTX 4070 ti
SkateZilla Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 That's part of being in the 70s/80s Navy... 1 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
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