solved Radio item 6 (cargo list) does not appear

[ChrisJD]

Hi  I have just returned to DCS after some time with MSFS 2020.   I wanted to start sling loads again as I had done before.  I have just landed my Mi8 next to an ammunition crate  Now the problem.  Chuck says \ opens the menu.  I have a note that says I used #   This brings up the Main menu with F5 F7 & F8 only - no F6.   It does not matter what keys I use I cannot the menu showing except # - with no F6.   Any idea what the problem is?   Help please!  ChrisJD

[razo+r]

What mission? Can you upload the mission or a track? 

[admiki]

3 hours ago, ChrisJD said:

Hi  I have just returned to DCS after some time with MSFS 2020.   I wanted to start sling loads again as I had done before.  I have just landed my Mi8 next to an ammunition crate  Now the problem.  Chuck says \ opens the menu.  I have a note that says I used #   This brings up the Main menu with F5 F7 & F8 only - no F6.   It does not matter what keys I use I cannot the menu showing except # - with no F6.   Any idea what the problem is?   Help please!  ChrisJD

If it's your own mission, you need to set that crate as a cargo

[Art-J]

^ "Can be cargo" window in cargo's properties is ticked by default whenever the cargo is placed on the map in current DCS versions so I'd think he's got that set up correctly. I'd double check if cargo belongs to the same coalition, though. That's easier mistake to make.

[ChrisJD]

Hi Thank you for your replies.   1)  It is my own mission - just a test  2)  Yes- the ammo crate is ticked in the 'can be cargo' box  3)  Yes - it is set as Russia.

What I have found is that R/Ctrl +R/Shift +P does not load the guide and R/Ctrl +R/Shift +L does not connect sling to cargo   Basically nothing happens at all

I am thinking that either one of the games updates or a Belsimtek update have caused this as I had sling load working perfectly the last time I used it - perhaps a year ago or more.

My question is, are your sling loads working for the Mi-8 & if so. what command do you use to bring up the menu with F6?

Thanks   ChrisJD

[Art-J]

Off my gaming rig for two weeks so can't test now, but shortly before I did create a simple solo sling loading mission in current Open Beta, for a quick refresher just like you, and it worked allright.

When I was bringing up the R863 radio menu (are you sure you're using that one? I think neither intercom menu nor general comms menu will do the job) and flew close to the cargo, the F6 sub-menu did show up, with all subsequent selection commands.

I was using hovering auto-hook method, though. Not sure if connecting from ground level method still works, I just didn't check that one.

Edited February 10, 2024 by Art-J

[ChrisJD]

Hi and thank you Art-J  You were quite right (actually on both points)  I found I had the radio set on main and also. even though I thought I checked. I had the ammo box set on USA.  I had completely forgotten I had to change to the correct coalition  For some reason my new controller has the radio set up on the joystick trigger!  Anyway all is well and thank you for your help.

Kind Regards  ChrisJD

[MAXsenna]

Hi and thank you Art-J  You were quite right (actually on both points)  I found I had the radio set on main and also. even though I thought I checked. I had the ammo box set on USA.  I had completely forgotten I had to change to the correct coalition  For some reason my new controller has the radio set up on the joystick trigger!  Anyway all is well and thank you for your help.
Kind Regards  ChrisJD

The PTT/radio button is correctly the trigger, that's why. First trigger detent is ICS/intercom, second is radio.
Cheers!

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[ChrisJD]

Hi again!

Now that I have got that sorted,  I now have the problem of the wildly swinging cargo.  No matter how careful I am and gentle with moving off the load starts swinging which gets worse until it eventually snaps the line and the load is lost.  Any tips please?   Thanks  ChrisJD

Thanks MAXsenna - that explains it,

 

[MAXsenna]

Hi again!
Now that I have got that sorted,  I now have the problem of the wildly swinging cargo.  No matter how careful I am and gentle with moving off the load starts swinging which gets worse until it eventually snaps the line and the load is lost.  Any tips please?   Thanks  ChrisJD
Thanks MAXsenna - that explains it,
 

Which cargo is it? I believe some cargos have bugs, and a couple of years ago, there was a general cargo bug they fixed.
Have you got the Syrian map? There's an excellent cargo mission included for the Mi-8, with lots of different cargos you can try out. Beware though, they'll shoot at you.

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[ChrisJD]

Thanks MAXsenna  I do have the Syria map so I'll try that.  So far I have tried 2 ammunition crate s, a 3ft bundle of logs and a 6ft bundle of logs.     If I am very careful I can get to about 20kph before the load starts swinging then breaks.   I was watching some you tube videos of slinging and they have the same problem,   I'll keep trying.  Thanks anyway.  ChrisJD

PS  Who do you think is better - Verstappen or Senna?

[MAXsenna]

Thanks MAXsenna  I do have the Syria map so I'll try that.  So far I have tried 2 ammunition crate s, a 3ft bundle of logs and a 6ft bundle of logs.     If I am very careful I can get to about 20kph before the load starts swinging then breaks.   I was watching some you tube videos of slinging and they have the same problem,   I'll keep trying.  Thanks anyway.  ChrisJD
PS  Who do you think is better - Verstappen or Senna?

I'll try it myself to see if anything strange has returned.
I have no opinion. The call sign was given to me, by a Brasiliana, so I guess she'd go for Senna. After all he's their national hero!

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[ChrisJD]

A quick footnote.  The ammo crate is very difficult, the bundle of logs is impossible but the iso container is manageable.  I cannot help but feel the programming is out somewhere.  If a load starts swinging.  I come to a complete stationary hover - no forward speed and no change in altitude - but say. the logs. continue swinging with the swing getting bigger and bigger until it gets higher than the helicopter then the line breaks.   I don't think this reflects real life. Thoughts?   ChrisJD

[MAXsenna]

A quick footnote.  The ammo crate is very difficult, the bundle of logs is impossible but the iso container is manageable.  I cannot help but feel the programming is out somewhere.  If a load starts swinging.  I come to a complete stationary hover - no forward speed and no change in altitude - but say. the logs. continue swinging with the swing getting bigger and bigger until it gets higher than the helicopter then the line breaks.   I don't think this reflects real life. Thoughts?   ChrisJD

This sounds exactly like that old bug. I'll test later today and report back. If I see the same thing I'll upload tracks from both Sïnai and Syria.

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[LuseKofte]

It is kind of weird. I flown piloting campaign just last week and had a go with the sling load instant action missions. I have no problems. 

[CyberCopter]

On 2/9/2024 at 11:47 PM, Art-J said:

^ "Can be cargo" window in cargo's properties is ticked by default whenever the cargo is placed on the map in current DCS versions so I'd think he's got that set up correctly. I'd double check if cargo belongs to the same coalition, though. That's easier mistake to make.

Thanks for saving me a bunch of time, setting the cargo coalition was blocking me.