Channel or Normandy 2.0 better detail?

[dresoccer4]

As the title says, wondering which Channel or Normandy 2.0 has better detail/more modern graphics systems?

[razo+r]

Normandy 2 is the newer one, but you can trial them to find out which one fits your taste better.

[Ghost79]

Normandy is the better map. In my opinion the detail is better than the channel map.  But perhaps most importantly it covers a greater area and encompasses the channel map area anyway.

To me, it seems that the channel map is dead and the future is Normandy for WW2 ops.

[Munin]

I find the Channel still to be more detailed and immersive - especially on the English side.

[dresoccer4]

13 hours ago, Ghost79 said:

Normandy is the better map. In my opinion the detail is better than the channel map.  But perhaps most importantly it covers a greater area and encompasses the channel map area anyway.

To me, it seems that the channel map is dead and the future is Normandy for WW2 ops.

 

9 hours ago, Munin said:

I find the Channel still to be more detailed and immersive - especially on the English side.

two very different comments have me extra confused lol

[sthompson]

1 hour ago, dresoccer4 said:

two very different comments have me extra confused lol

Part of the confusion may have to do with the areas of overlap. When Normandy 2 was released it was announced that the overlap areas with the channel map would have less detail than the rest of that map. You can see this by looking at the area of high detail for Normandy 2. See the FAQ linked below. So much of Normandy 2 is very detailed, but not including the part that overlaps with the Channel map. Personally I think flying over London or Paris on the Normandy map is very cool. But there is a lot of detail in other areas on the Channel map (e.g. around Dover) that is missing from the Normandy map. Neither is uniformly better than the other. I like the DLC campaigns for the Channel map a little better since flying from England to Normandy and back takes quite a while and isn't very interesting.

 

[dresoccer4]

20 hours ago, sthompson said:

Part of the confusion may have to do with the areas of overlap. When Normandy 2 was released it was announced that the overlap areas with the channel map would have less detail than the rest of that map. You can see this by looking at the area of high detail for Normandy 2. See the FAQ linked below. So much of Normandy 2 is very detailed, but not including the part that overlaps with the Channel map. Personally I think flying over London or Paris on the Normandy map is very cool. But there is a lot of detail in other areas on the Channel map (e.g. around Dover) that is missing from the Normandy map. Neither is uniformly better than the other. I like the DLC campaigns for the Channel map a little better since flying from England to Normandy and back takes quite a while and isn't very interesting.

 

thanks, this makes sense. So to recap the Normandy 2.0 map is better and more detailed for a larger area, except the area covered in the smaller Channel map, which has higher resolution for that singular area. 

[Qcumber]

Normandy 2 is a better map overall. The level of detail is good on both maps but the performance is better for the N2 map. Ultimately, it depends on the area that is most important to you. 

[Nealius]

Normandy 2 has better locations/size, but Channel has much better detail. The chalk cliffs on the UK side in Normandy 2 look absolutely horrendous with static shadows drawn onto them. 

Edited May 31, 2024 by Nealius

[dresoccer4]

On 5/31/2024 at 1:06 AM, Nealius said:

Normandy 2 has better locations/size, but Channel has much better detail. The chalk cliffs on the UK side in Normandy 2 look absolutely horrendous with static shadows drawn onto them. 

 

 

On 5/23/2024 at 5:17 PM, Qcumber said:

Normandy 2 is a better map overall. The level of detail is good on both maps but the performance is better for the N2 map. Ultimately, it depends on the area that is most important to you. 

seems to be a bit of a rivalry between the two. some say normandy 2 is better some say channel is better. 

[Nealius]

"It depends." Neither is objectively better. One is better than the other depending on personal priorities. 

[dresoccer4]

18 hours ago, Nealius said:

"It depends." Neither is objectively better. One is better than the other depending on personal priorities. 

well as stated in the topic thread, is refers to the graphical fidelity/technology specifically. i would feel like this is a more objective idea whether someone just likes it more or not. from what i gathered Normandy 2.0 is objectively newer and better technology across the map, but Channel has more detail specifically along the coastal areas since its a smaller map. but not 100% sure about this

[razo+r]

30 minutes ago, dresoccer4 said:

well as stated in the topic thread, is refers to the graphical fidelity/technology specifically. i would feel like this is a more objective idea whether someone just likes it more or not. from what i gathered Normandy 2.0 is objectively newer and better technology across the map, but Channel has more detail specifically along the coastal areas since its a smaller map. but not 100% sure about this

Which is why I said in the first reply that you should just trial the maps and find out yourself which one suits you more. 

[lBlackMambal]

Since I'm super confused now too. I consider the following options:

#1 DCS: The Channel (36,96€) + DCS: Normandy 2.0 upgrade (13,85€) -> 50,81€

or

#2 DCS: Normandy 2.0 (46,20€) + DCS: Channel (36,96€) -> 83,16€

 

Would option #1 provide both maps in full state, though for much less compared to buying the maps separately? If I choose option #1, in DCS will there be a dedicated "The Channel" and "Normandy" map to pick in e.g. the mission editor, or will there still be only "The Channel" to build missions?

Edited October 27, 2024 by lBlackMambal

[MAXsenna]

30 minutes ago, lBlackMambal said:

Since I'm super confused now too. I consider the following options:

#1 DCS: The Channel (36,96€) + DCS: Normandy 2.0 upgrade (13,85€) -> 50,81€

or

#2 DCS: Normandy 2.0 (46,20€) + DCS: Channel (36,96€) -> 83,16€

 

Would option #1 provide both maps in full state, though for much less compared to buying the maps separately? If I choose option #1, in DCS will there be a dedicated "The Channel" and "Normandy" map to pick in e.g. the mission editor, or will there still be only "The Channel" to build missions?

 

Yes. They are fully individual maps. You get a discount on Normandie, if you own the Channel map. Maybe it's even applied if you get both at the same time. I owned both when Normandy 2.0 dropped. 

[lBlackMambal]

vor 40 Minuten schrieb MAXsenna:

Yes. They are fully individual maps. You get a discount on Normandie, if you own the Channel map. Maybe it's even applied if you get both at the same time. I owned both when Normandy 2.0 dropped. 

Thanks a lot for the reply.

So, if I buy "The Channel" + "Normandy 2.0 Upgrade" it would be the same as buying "The Channel" + "Normandy 2.0", right?

[Esac_mirmidon]

You need first former Normandy to be able to use 2.0 upgrade.

If you dont have Normandy base map you cant upgrade to 2.0 for that money.

So having Normandy just buy 2.0 upgrade and the Channel. 

If you dont have Normandy, you need the FULL PRICE Normandy 2.0 and the Channel

[Qcumber]

6 minutes ago, Esac_mirmidon said:

You need first former Normandy to be able to use 2.0 upgrade.

No. You can still get the full N2 map for $14.99 if you own The Channel map. That's what I did. 

[lBlackMambal]

vor 35 Minuten schrieb Qcumber:

No. You can still get the full N2 map for $14.99 if you own The Channel map. That's what I did. 

I see, even in 2024 there's still confusion

Qcumber, with this "Channel + Normandy 2.0 Upgrade", do you have HQ content all over the map?

I'm referring to this YT:clip (simply play with the linked starting time):

 

[MAXsenna]

@Qcumber Is correct. 

@Esac_mirmidon Original Normandy is not for sale anymore.

@lBlackMambal Yes, correct. Get them both, or Channel first.

[Qcumber]

2 hours ago, lBlackMambal said:

Qcumber, with this "Channel + Normandy 2.0 Upgrade", do you have HQ content all over the map?

Yes but there is less detail around East Kent than The Channel map as this is part of the overlap. UM appear to be adding more detail here though with more airfields etc. 

[lBlackMambal]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna:

@Qcumber Is correct. 

@Esac_mirmidon Original Normandy is not for sale anymore.

@lBlackMambal Yes, correct. Get them both, or Channel first.

Alrighty, well, if there's no difference between buying each map on its own or upgrading "The Channel" with the "Normandy 2.0" I will then go for the upgrade path Thanks a lot for the confirmation.

vor einer Stunde schrieb Qcumber:

Yes but there is less detail around East Kent than The Channel map as this is part of the overlap. UM appear to be adding more detail here though with more airfields etc. 

Thanks again for the reply. Ok, good to know. Can't wait to check out those maps - specifically since they come from the same company that created the awesome Syria map.

[Esac_mirmidon]

Sorry, didnt know the original Normandy was put out of the box.

Then just Channel + Normandy 2 upgrade

Edited October 27, 2024 by Esac_mirmidon

[Qcumber]

2 hours ago, lBlackMambal said:

Thanks again for the reply. Ok, good to know. Can't wait to check out those maps - specifically since they come from the same company that created the awesome Syria map.

N2 is a great map. Much better optimisation than The Channel and sounds like it will get better with the next update 

[v2tec]

I have choosen the N2 map. But to be honest, didn't play it much recently.

I bought the BF 109 K-4 after I have seen it in a museum and it looked quit interesting. For this I thought I should have an appropriate scenery... well.