Force feedback Joystick from Moza

[Aapje]

3 hours ago, Hiob said:

Probably needs some time to ripe.

I'd be surprised if people don't still have major issues until early 2025 getting the base to work with at least some of the promised games.

And I expect that feature parity with the Rhino will take a lot longer still.

[Youtch]

Still waiting to see a full stress test of the Moza FFB, to see how it handles long dogfight in warbirds.

[rapid]

31 minutes ago, Youtch said:

Still waiting to see a full stress test of the Moza FFB, to see how it handles long dogfight in warbirds.

I hope cooling wont be an issue as the vents seem small.

[pierscockey]

Just noticed the UK supplier has changed the date from late August:

 

**PRE-ORDER THE ALL NEW EXCITING MOZA AB9 BASE – DUE TO ARRIVE 2nd WEEK IN SEPTEMBER**

[rapid]

Oh Dear! 

[Hiob]

On 9/3/2024 at 5:15 PM, rapid said:

I hope cooling wont be an issue as the vents seem small.

Does it have any active cooling? From the early promo-materials it looked like passive cooling only. Knowing the Rhino, which has similar (almost identical) specs, I have serious doubts about that.

[Stellatny45]

4 hours ago, Hiob said:

Does it have any active cooling? From the early promo-materials it looked like passive cooling only. Knowing the Rhino, which has similar (almost identical) specs, I have serious doubts about that.

This is exactly why the absence of stress tests for dogfighting endurance is so concerning.

[rapid]

Think it has passive cooling.

[kkpriest]

I asked MOZA about shipping. This is what they said:

Thank you for your message, we are glad to inform you that since your order is the first batch so we will give priority to shipping almost, it is expected to be shipped around September 10th, we will send the tracking number to you after shipment, thank you for your patience and understanding.
 

Excitement in the air. Especially that I have holiday booked in October

[rapid]

Sounds about right what I had  posted earlier, when was your order placed as mine was the 28th June?

The Desk Clamp has arrived at Yodel so will be with me soon. I ordered this on the 21 of August.

Edited September 5, 2024 by rapid

[kkpriest]

Yes, 28th June as well. 

[rapid]

2 hours ago, kkpriest said:

Yes, 28th June as well. 

Sweet, I guess we are much nearer now than we  were before to actually receive the item.

[Hunter Joker]

Found this, a more complex review will follow.

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[rapid]

Nice one this should please the masses.

[petsild]

Base placed on an unstable table, another useless video.

[MAXsenna]

Nice one this should please the masses.

Chinese power cord? Was a Brit one wasn't it? Just kidding, subd and looking forward to the next one. Just hope he can mount it.
Cheers!

Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk

[rapid]

Firmware 1.1.1.1.5 that's the highest I have seen so far.

[Aapje]

2 hours ago, petsild said:

Base placed on an unstable table, another useless video.

We still got a little bit of useful info, like the lack of weapon effects.

[_Hoss]

LOL.... I just love these posts. 

[GWdope]

I got mine yesterday and had it set up in about two hours after some glitches getting the firmware updated as nothing would download until I installed the pit house app as well as the cockpit app. 
 

I mounted it right up to my thrustmaster warthog Fox Mount desk mount in center stick position after building a little reinforcement to make it more secure. It dosent sit low enough for me to use the 10cm extension I have so until I find a solution for that im using it with the warthog grip directly on it. 
 

my very first impressions were slightly underwhelmed but I’ve turned around on that quite a bit after mucking with settings. 
 

The first thing I noticed was that the presets it comes with aren’t very good, at least for the P-51 and the F-18. They both seemed weak and underwhelming. Flying the OH58 was also a bit of a letdown as a strong centering force made it hard to be precise and made force trim jerky. 
 

however, tonight I messed with the slider a bit more and found really good settings for those three. Turning the spring force all the way down and everything else up made the OH58 amazing to fly. There’s still some centering force but it’s very light and the extremely precise and light stick movement instantly made me a 10x better helicopter pilot. I went from having a shaky and imprecise hover to a rock solid, extremely controlled precision hover. It’s a game changer. 
 

turning spring and just about everything up to 50% the P-51 with the force settings at 100% made for a very realistic feeling experience. After some instant action dogfights lasting maybe 10 min total, the base was still apparently cool and I never had any problems with the force feedback being throttled. 

overall I’m getting more and more excited about this the more I mess with it. I haven’t gotten the telemetry modes to work yet, so there’s a whole lot more to mess with there I think. If anyone knows how to get that working with DCS let me know.
 

 

[some1]

1 hour ago, GWdope said:

the spring force all the way down and everything else up made the OH58 amazing to fly.

In his videos, Casmo said that most Kiowa pilots in real life flew with force trim turned off completely. It was only used on the ground to avoid bumping the stick during preflight. There's a switch in the cockpit that will disable the spring force in DCS. Same in the Huey.

Edited September 8, 2024 by some1

[rapid]

3 hours ago, GWdope said:

I got mine yesterday and had it set up in about two hours after some glitches getting the firmware updated as nothing would download until I installed the pit house app as well as the cockpit app. 
 

I mounted it right up to my thrustmaster warthog Fox Mount desk mount in center stick position after building a little reinforcement to make it more secure. It dosent sit low enough for me to use the 10cm extension I have so until I find a solution for that im using it with the warthog grip directly on it. 
 

my very first impressions were slightly underwhelmed but I’ve turned around on that quite a bit after mucking with settings. 
 

The first thing I noticed was that the presets it comes with aren’t very good, at least for the P-51 and the F-18. They both seemed weak and underwhelming. Flying the OH58 was also a bit of a letdown as a strong centering force made it hard to be precise and made force trim jerky. 
 

however, tonight I messed with the slider a bit more and found really good settings for those three. Turning the spring force all the way down and everything else up made the OH58 amazing to fly. There’s still some centering force but it’s very light and the extremely precise and light stick movement instantly made me a 10x better helicopter pilot. I went from having a shaky and imprecise hover to a rock solid, extremely controlled precision hover. It’s a game changer. 
 

turning spring and just about everything up to 50% the P-51 with the force settings at 100% made for a very realistic feeling experience. After some instant action dogfights lasting maybe 10 min total, the base was still apparently cool and I never had any problems with the force feedback being throttled. 

overall I’m getting more and more excited about this the more I mess with it. I haven’t gotten the telemetry modes to work yet, so there’s a whole lot more to mess with there I think. If anyone knows how to get that working with DCS let me know.
 

 

Cool they been sent out now.

Two things when did you place your order?

And

What Firmware Version are you using?

[GWdope]

3 hours ago, rapid said:

Cool they been sent out now.

Two things when did you place your order?

And

What Firmware Version are you using?

June 27

1.1.1.21

 

[rapid]

Nice mine was June 28th.

 

Good to see that are now on firmware version 1.1.1.21 from 1.1.1.15 looks like they are working hard at fixing the issues.

[Cab]

13 minutes ago, rapid said:

Nice mine was June 28th.

 

Good to see that are now on firmware version 1.1.1.21 from 1.1.1.15 looks like they are working hard at fixing the issues.

Where are you seeing the firmware versions?