[CHK] JF-17 POD Bugs (video attached)

[Fabiano-VIKING]

I made a video showing a couple of bugs that keep giving me a hard time when flying the Jf-17.

Bugs and "frustrations" that I have noticed:
 

Pod image - Brightness and contrast don’t work properly in VR.
Pod doesn’t slave to waypoint sometimes.
Pod loses target lock.
Pod can’t keep lock (on terrain).
Pilot body when???

Mission track is attached below the video.

VIDEO

 

JF-17 TEST MISSION.miz

Edited July 26, 2024 by uboats

[Fabiano-VIKING]

Can someone please take a look at this "FORGOTTEN MODULE"!? Some of these bugs are really old. 

[Flappie]

This module is not forgotten. You simply didn't posted in the proper section.

I'll ask for this thread to be moved.

[Fabiano-VIKING]

I posted in the Deka's JF-17 session, but nobody answered so I hid it and posted it again here. Not sure where the correct place is. Sorry about that. And thank you for your consideration Flappie. I appreciate it. 

[tekwoj]

I'm sorry Flappie, but some of the bugs have been reported quite a while ago, and if we compare other modules' patchnotes, JF-17 does look neglected.

[uboats]

@JG54_NF2

[JG54_NF2]

2024/7/16 PM11点11分，Fabiano-VIKING说：

我制作了一段视频，展示了一些错误，这些错误在驾驶 Jf-17 时一直让我感到困难。

我注意到的错误和“挫折”：
 

窗格图像 - 亮度和对比度在 VR 中无法正常工作。
Pod 有时不会服从航点。
Pod 失去目标锁定。
Pod 无法保持锁定（在地形上）。
中试体何时???

任务轨迹附在视频下方。

视频

 

JF-17 测试任务.miz 11.59KB · 4次下载

Yes, I can confirm that most of the issues in this video do exist, but what's very difficult is that I can't reproduce them accurately. It will only happen by chance, and when we try again, the problem does not exist. This may require more cases or TRK files for operation.

@uboats

Developers need to conduct more detailed research.

 

Edited July 26, 2024 by JG54_NF2

[antiload]

I've noticed that sometimes the WMD pod doesn't ground stabilise within its 21 nm threshold. I tried to replicate but frustratingly works from an air start. It happens in SP 'sometimes' from a cold start. Very frustrating. I will try to recreate it. 

[antiload]

Hi, I tested the WMD tpod in SP from an automatic cold start (no mods).

The problem seems to be that the pod does not lock (or appears not to ground stabilise) the target area of the waypoint. It seems snap to another area of the ground.

For this test I ground stabilised where the camera actually snapped to, then I moved the camera to the actual target area. Very clunky, especially in the heat of battle. Maybe this is normal behaviour, but  it's a change to previous versions. If this is a bug, it's been like this for a while.

Note: the off-set maybe even wider in some missions, I can't really know. Maybe just seemed like that with the pod zoomed in.

Anyway trk & mission file attached.

@uboats

JF17 WMD test.miz JF17 WMD Test .trk

Edited July 28, 2024 by antiload

[tekwoj]

I've also just had a session where if I did an area or point track once by tgp, I would no more be able to slave tgp to waypoints. It's as if I was unable to undesignate the tgp target. Slaving still worked fine if I designated target by radar.

[uboats]

On 7/28/2024 at 6:33 PM, antiload said:

Hi, I tested the WMD tpod in SP from an automatic cold start (no mods).

The problem seems to be that the pod does not lock (or appears not to ground stabilise) the target area of the waypoint. It seems snap to another area of the ground.

For this test I ground stabilised where the camera actually snapped to, then I moved the camera to the actual target area. Very clunky, especially in the heat of battle. Maybe this is normal behaviour, but  it's a change to previous versions. If this is a bug, it's been like this for a while.

Note: the off-set maybe even wider in some missions, I can't really know. Maybe just seemed like that with the pod zoomed in.

Anyway trk & mission file attached.

@uboats

JF17 WMD test.miz 40.13 kB · 1 download JF17 WMD Test .trk 7.41 MB · 0 downloads

 

@JG54_NF2 please help check this

[mousepilot]

Hi everyone,

I keep having the issues shown in the video. And I can consistently reproduce them.

Is there news about fixes? Can I help by providing more information?

This aircraft is great but the POD issues make it very disappointing to fly A/G.

Thanks in advance.

[BigBorner]

Activate AG radar, make it SOI, and press undesignate. That usually helps. 

[mousepilot]

Ok, I'll try that and report back.

[antiload]

On 1/27/2025 at 7:44 PM, mousepilot said:

Ok, I'll try that and report back.

Hi, did this fix the tpod issue in AG. I'm still having an issue locking the ground at the waypoint even though i'm within parameters. 

[antiload]

On 7/28/2024 at 11:33 AM, antiload said:

UPDATE 6/3/2025 @uboats

Hi, I tested the WMD tpod in SP again today.

Automatic cold start (no mods).

The problem seems to be that the pod does not lock (or appears not to ground stabilise, even within parameters) the target area of the waypoint. It seems snap to another area of the ground.

I seem to be able to ground stabilise the tpod in 'wide view'. Then I'm able to move it about.

It is making AG operations extremely difficult Anyone else having this issue?

@uboats

JF17 WMD test.miz 40.13 kB · 28 downloads JF17 WMD Test .trk 7.41 MB · 22 downloads

 

[uboats]

On 3/6/2025 at 5:49 PM, antiload said:

 

Thanks. damn tpod, lol

@JG54_NF2

Edited March 8 by uboats

[tekwoj]

@uboats Here's a track of tgp losing track. After that the slav option stops working until I press TDC depress to select a new target. In the track I tried:

- select wpt 40 and then slav

- copy wpt 40 to 41 (markpoint) and then slav

- copy wpt 40 to 04 and 02 and then slav for any of those

- select wpt 01 and then slav

Later I press TDC to select a new target and the tgp starts to work again.

 

tgp_losing_track.trk

[uboats]

On 4/15/2025 at 5:10 AM, tekwoj said:

@uboats Here's a track of tgp losing track. After that the slav option stops working until I press TDC depress to select a new target. In the track I tried:

- select wpt 40 and then slav

- copy wpt 40 to 41 (markpoint) and then slav

- copy wpt 40 to 04 and 02 and then slav for any of those

- select wpt 01 and then slav

Later I press TDC to select a new target and the tgp starts to work again.

 

tgp_losing_track.trk 5.18 MB · 7 downloads

Thank you! 

@JG54_NF2 please help take a look

[uboats]

On 1/24/2025 at 6:37 PM, mousepilot said:

Hi everyone,

I keep having the issues shown in the video. And I can consistently reproduce them.

Is there news about fixes? Can I help by providing more information?

This aircraft is great but the POD issues make it very disappointing to fly A/G.

Thanks in advance.

do you have your reproduce trk or steps?

[mousepilot]

On 2/10/2025 at 9:31 PM, antiload said:

Hi, did this fix the tpod issue in AG. I'm still having an issue locking the ground at the waypoint even though i'm within parameters. 

Hi antiload,

I missed your message. Unfortunately, no it didn't fix it. The TPod is still very "erratic" and it will often jitter even when it's not supposed to be tracking (e.g.: if the TPod is looking at the edge of a mountain).

Hopefully the developers can sort out the issue.

7 minutes ago, uboats said:

do you have your reproduce trk or steps?

Hi uboats,

I mostly fly the JF-17 in a multiplayer server, but I'll see if I can setup a SP mission to produce a track.

Thanks again for your help.

[uboats]

4 minutes ago, mousepilot said:

Hi antiload,

I missed your message. Unfortunately, no it didn't fix it. The TPod is still very "erratic" and it will often jitter even when it's not supposed to be tracking (e.g.: if the TPod is looking at the edge of a mountain).

Hopefully the developers can sort out the issue.

Hi uboats,

I mostly fly the JF-17 in a multiplayer server, but I'll see if I can setup a SP mission to produce a track.

Thanks again for your help.

thank you for your help