investigating F-16 Datalink FOV hold HSD View

[xanstin]

Posted in Discord Bug Reports.

I have noticed since the previous patch when you FOV hold on the HSD page you use to get a zoomed in closest view to show your Flight per Datalink. If only a few miles apart it would be close, if further out it would zoom accordingly to show flight members only. Now holding it down it zooms out and captures all friendly client datalink contacts vs just your flight. 

This appears to only be affected by Client Flights/Planes. It wont zoom if only one client and tankers or AWACS etc.

Prior to anyone joining it zooms in as expected and shows no one.

 

A new Client Player joins it shows him on DL as expected. Separate flight and different TNDL numbers

 

I take off leave the area now it zooms out to show the other blue air client despite not being part of my flight. It didn't use to do this it would zoom only to account for blue flight members.

 

It will continue zooming out the further you get from any blue client logged in not in your flight

I have tried updating all the DL Station Numbers to remove the empty slots showing 00000 as suggested but still had the same issue despite 2 flights having 2 sets of unique numbers.

Our entire squadron has this issue. (5+ clients tested)

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Edited September 14, 2024 by xanstin
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[Stroke 3]

I also remember once using the ZOOM feature by holding down the pinky switch and it scaled to 120nm.

[Moonshine]

confirm, just happened yesterday. i was fully expecting it to zoom in focusing on the lowest scale that shows all my flight members, instead it zoomed fully out to show every link contact. something is fishy

[xanstin]

I haven't tested in single player. In multiplayer it only happens with more than 1 blue viper client. If you are alone it works as it did before.

I also haven't tested with other airframes.

Edited August 23, 2024 by xanstin

[Stroke 3]

@Lord Vader Is this going to be reported? You know how its originally supposed to work.

[xanstin]

Any found a work around?

[Swift.]

Do we know what the precise mechanism of this bug occurring is? I've seen it happen myself but seemingly quite randomly.

Is it when any new PPLI is created after your own jet has started up? ie if a player joins after you?

[xanstin]

We all start up around the same time so as far as the sequence I haven’t figure it out. It’s only when it’s more than one flight of player aircraft. AI have no effect. I haven’t had a mission yet that had multiple player viper flights and this didn’t happen.


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[Swift.]

7 hours ago, xanstin said:

We all start up around the same time so as far as the sequence I haven’t figure it out. It’s only when it’s more than one flight of player aircraft. AI have no effect. I haven’t had a mission yet that had multiple player viper flights and this didn’t happen.


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Alright, I'll try and see if I can replicate this. Thanks for the info

[xanstin]

I don't know why the image links broke I readded them if it helps @Swift.

[xanstin]

Problem still exists after datalink fix in last patch


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Problem still exists after datalink fix in last patch


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[AlexCaboose]

Still an issue as of the latest update

[BIGNEWY]

We are investigating but we are not convinced this is a bug. 

thank you 

[AlexCaboose]

2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

We are investigating but we are not convinced this is a bug. 

thank you 

How is it not a bug? You guys have literally made a video about it. Displaying your whole flight is literally the entire point, that's why it goes down to 5nm. 
 

 

[xanstin]

Any updates on this? It is a bug because the operation changed after an update which it appears ED was unaware of as it wasn’t documented. Why would you want to zoom out to every Viper on the map how would that be useful to anyone you already have the HSD. Speaking to actual viper pilots the pinky zoom feature is used for maintaining formations at tactical distances such as an offset container. It should zoom to show your flight not every viper in the theater.


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[AlexCaboose]

Still an issue

[xanstin]

Didnt see it mentioned today on the notes, wonder if it was fixed. Will test as soon as able and report back, need other jets to test lol.

[xanstin]

The last patch fixed the behavior pressing FOV now zooms the HSD to your flight only range.