SuperKungFu Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 wow I just heard on the news that they recommend everyone to avoid flying A330s until the investigation comes out with a clear answer. Yea....like our economy isn't bad enough, let's screw it up even more by announcing that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vault Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 wow I just heard on the news that they recommend everyone to avoid flying A330s until the investigation comes out with a clear answer. Yea....like our economy isn't bad enough, let's screw it up even more by announcing that. Now that is interesting, can you define who "they" are? FAA? NTSB?... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SuperKungFu Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 I wasn't sure if it was CNN shooting their mouths off or the FAA announced that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vault Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 I wasn't sure if it was CNN shooting their mouths off or the FAA announced that. I can't find anything on the FAA website. It's got to be CNN or someone else which is Pretty irresponsible tbh, announcements like that should only ever be made by the FAA. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
joey45 Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 FAA?? Federation Against Aviation... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Panzertard Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Yes, who are they? Airbus? Fox News? CNN? Boeing? EDIT: Noticed you said CNN later there. The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning
bumfire Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 The conspiracies continue http://www.sundayherald.com/international/shinternational/display.var.2512885.0.0.php One website or was it TV, I cant remember, but this was last week, that 4 days prior to the plane going missing, AF was supposed to of been told about an attempt that a plane from the region the plane came from was going to be targetted by a bomb. How true that is I dont know, but aparrently it had something to do with either an AF plane or just "A" plane from any other carrier that was going to be targetted by a bomb. I heard it on tv ? or seen it on a website ? once and havent heard anything since, so I really cant say how true that claim was.
bumfire Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Todays news says that 4 days prior to the plane crashing ( which I recall seeing somewhere a day or 2 after the plane went missing ), Airfrance got a warning in Brazil that one of their planes was going to be bombed, presumably in that South American region, also French Intelligence have said that 2 people onboard had links to extremist islamic groups, or it could just be 2 ordinary people who happen to have the same names as the islamic extremists that the french intel people have on their books.
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 have they found the black box yet? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
sniffer Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 AFAIK - Negative... still searching... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 the problem with the findings is that they happened when the current already had moved them aways from the site of the crash. .
-fox- Posted June 13, 2009 Posted June 13, 2009 They have 17 days left to find the black box, after that it will stop sending its sonar signal.
sniffer Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Official FAB Press Releases (English/Spain) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tflash Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 According to the New Scientist, there is some concern surrounding the recovered tail section part. Since this is composite material, one of the possible theories would be a catastrophic failure of a composite part. While fatigue issues for metal plane parts have been learned the hard way and are mastered since long, there is little known about how composite parts behave under stress. If this all were due to a kind of fatigue/stress issue of a composite part, this would have serious consequences for the aviation industry. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Finding the tail seperated from the plane means nothing, it could have ripped off during violent tumbling of the plane on the way down, or after a nose collision where the rear of the plane desintegrated in larger chunks that the front. Nobody knows yet. .
Zorrin Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 According to the New Scientist, there is some concern surrounding the recovered tail section part. Since this is composite material, one of the possible theories would be a catastrophic failure of a composite part. While fatigue issues for metal plane parts have been learned the hard way and are mastered since long, there is little known about how composite parts behave under stress. If this all were due to a kind of fatigue/stress issue of a composite part, this would have serious consequences for the aviation industry. While a possibility I'm not sure it can be put down to fatigue. Aircraft certification, and certainly for large airliners, is incredibly stringent. More to the point, surely the aircraft in question is too young to have really suffered from fatigue? It's more likely that it was a bomb. There was a British Airways flight about 40 minutes ahead of the AF aircraft flying the same route. They'd said that the while the weather was bad it was not in anyway near bad enough to bring down an airliner. Of course it's all speculation until more of the aircraft and the black box can be found. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
bumfire Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 An old lady who missed the Airfrance flight and survived because she was late to the departure and the plane had already gone, she was involved in a car crash a day or so ago and died. How unlucky is that ? Thats the story thats going around, I dont know if its true or not but supposedly it is. Cant cheat the reaper.
-fox- Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 It's more likely that it was a bomb. Apart from the fact that there were no traces of an explosion whatsoever on the debris, you'd think that if it was a terroristic attack, there would be some claim of responsibilty by now. There's still this Sunday Herald-story about two of the passengers though: Key figures in global battle against illegal arms trade lost in Air France crash
Zorrin Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 But, you don't need a large explosive to bring down an airliner. Especially if the bomb is at the front of the aircraft there wouldn't be anything to suggest such at the tail. But, it's all speculation until more wreckage is found. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
bumfire Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Some more news, Pilots in airbus simulators I think it was, did a recreation flight with similar CB's and the flight nearly always ended with the plane breaking up and max G's of around 8g So my buddy from boeing says.
sniffer Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 Very interesting summary of accident provided by BEA [pdf]: Report [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jpm1 Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 very impressive black box (strong) SU-25 missions [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dawestsides Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 very impressive black box (strong) :cry_2: c'est choquant jpm1! This is one of the scariest things I've ever heard. I speak english,french and arabic...so every single word was clear to me... RIP all victims. [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
leafer Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 There was one recording that was really spooky. As the plane was going down the pilot uttered, "I love you, mom." I don't know why but I never forget that sentence. Maybe it was the way it was spoken or the revelation of what he was thinking about during the final seconds of his life. Anyway, they ruled that the crew had forgotten to lower flaps during take off and lost lift. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
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