ebabil Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Recently I can not start the game in certain situations: - In editor, select AI plane: No problem - In editor, select certain planes/ helicopters: No problem (F-16, F-14, AH-64, KA-50,MI-8) - In editor, select some planes/ helicopters: Stuck at "Spawn Object" message at loading screen (F-5, F-15, F-4, A-10C, UH-1) Log is attached, repair and deleting shaders, fxo files didn't work. dcs.log FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Flappie Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Hi. You may encounter the issue described here: The solution for me was simple: look for old .diff.lua (and sometimes even .lua) in your "Config/Input/..." folders. Please make a backup of your Input folder before you start deleting files. ---
ebabil Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 (edited) hi, my input folder doesn't contain module names in it. these files are in mods/aircraft folder. there are tons of lua files there Edited January 11 by ebabil FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 11 Posted January 11 hi, my input folder doesn't contain module names in it. these files are in mods/aircraft folder. there are tons of lua files thereWait, what? Something's very wrong then! I'm not at home so I cannot produce a screenshot. Your Input folder should definitely contain control settings for all your modules!Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
ebabil Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 Are we taking about this folder right? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Are we taking about this folder right? Ah! No! Saved Games. Phew..... Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
ebabil Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 After deleting this file (God all of my key bindings gone) game worked except F-4E. It still causes hang 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Flappie Posted January 11 Posted January 11 41 minutes ago, ebabil said: God all of my key bindings gone Argh! The goal was to identify very old .diff.lua files and delete only those, not the whole folders. I had asked you to make a backup beforehand. Do you have one? 2 hours ago, Flappie said: Please make a backup of your Input folder before you start deleting files. About the F-4E, try a DCS cleanup and repair. 1 ---
ebabil Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 I got a backup but can’t try each of them. So ı will embrace the pain. Repair hadn’t worked before but ı will try again 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Flappie Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I do it the other way around: when I find a module which loading gets stuck, I kill DCS and go to the module Input folder, locate "twin" .diff.lua and remove the eldest. I did the Tomcat this morning, and I'm sure I'll find others. This looks like a new issue. I had never such an issue before, and you are now the second user I know to get this (I discovered the issue a week ago). 1 ---
ebabil Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 So even if we do that, same problem may come back unless ED solves it 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I got a backup but can’t try each of them. So ı will embrace the pain. Repair hadn’t worked before but ı will try again You know you can import the old ones, right? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
ebabil Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 Yeah did that years ago. Will try after everything is solved 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
ebabil Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 (edited) I think I have figured the problem. Cuurently I am using a mod with sidewinder&ch fighter stick to get more buttons plus ffb. now I deleted all input folder and all modules worked but when I make new assignment for my stick, new file is created. So next time that modle doesn’t work. If I can not find a solution, then I will have to give up using this and revert to warthog Edited January 12 by ebabil FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 12 Posted January 12 I think I have figured the problem. Cuurently I am using a mod with sidewinder&ch fighter stick to get more buttons plus ffb. now I deleted all input folder and all modules worked but when I make new assignment for my stick, new file is created. So next time that modle doesn’t work. If I can not find a solution, then I will have to give up using this and revert to warthog Then there is an issue for sure. If you delete the folders a new one with the diff files will be created the next time you change anything in the control settings. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Flappie Posted January 12 Posted January 12 That is strange. DCS is supposed to use Windows GUUID to name each device. These GUUIDs usually only change after a Windows reinstallation or reset. @ebabil You mean that any time you unplug / plug your device, it gets a new GUUID? Nice FFB2 mod by the way! It gives me ideas, I have the FFB2. 1 ---
ebabil Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 I don’t know what guuid means but all my devices are recognized and can be mapped instantly. It seems there is no problem but modules don’t work after I create a button mapping in game. this device is recognized as two devices in the game, one is Ch fighter stick and other is sidewinder. But there is only one usb cable. Maybe game gets confused. I have no idea st all FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Blinde Posted January 12 Posted January 12 (edited) I'm having the same issue. Sometimes it helps to alt+tab to taskmanager and then back to game and it starts to load the rest of the mission. However it doesn't work everytime, especially F-4E just hangs. I tried deleting all the old .diff files and no joy. edit. Tried even without controllers installed and same thing happens, especially on F-4, F-16 and F-5. Jumping to taskmanager and little wait usually works. Edited January 12 by Blinde 1
ebabil Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 It is very annoying. I have removed sidewinder, deleted input folder, most of the modules worked. re-entered tried again and now none of them working. my doesn't work when there is a input folder??? I think i will uninstall dcs completely. FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 13 Posted January 13 It is very annoying. I have removed sidewinder, deleted input folder, most of the modules worked. re-entered tried again and now none of them working. my doesn't work when there is a input folder??? I think i will uninstall dcs completely.Have a go at a live log viewer and you'll be able to watch in realtime what's happening under the hood.Try SPH Log viewer or something it's free. Pinging @silverdevil as I'm not at home and don't remember the correct name. You know which one, right? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
silverdevil Posted January 13 Posted January 13 25 minutes ago, ebabil said: It is very annoying. I have removed sidewinder, deleted input folder, most of the modules worked. re-entered tried again and now none of them working. my doesn't work when there is a input folder??? I think i will uninstall dcs completely. 16 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Have a go at a live log viewer and you'll be able to watch in realtime what's happening under the hood. Try SPH Log viewer or something it's free. Pinging @silverdevil as I'm not at home and don't remember the correct name. You know which one, right? here is the page for the SPHW LogViewer https://www.softpagehomeware.com/products/logviewer 1 AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
Blinde Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) Now it doesn't work at all anymore. Deleted dcs.openbeta folder from the Temp folder etc. Just hangs on spawning objects. Deleted all the logbooks and input folders too. Nvidia caches also. Every time when set as a player in the editor, the game hangs, doesn't crash but just hangs. Edited January 19 by Blinde
Blinde Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Did you @ebabil finally fixed this? I updated the latest patch today and the problem is still there. Rarely loading moves past the "spawning objects" and the game just hangs. Did whole new reinstall by first deleting all the dcs related folders, then downloaded it to new folder, no mods installed, patched it today and still the same issue.
ebabil Posted January 20 Author Posted January 20 After I removed my franken sidewinder and run repair problem seemed to be resolved but I am not sure, it may reoccur anytime FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Did you @ebabil finally fixed this? I updated the latest patch today and the problem is still there. Rarely loading moves past the "spawning objects" and the game just hangs. Did whole new reinstall by first deleting all the dcs related folders, then downloaded it to new folder, no mods installed, patched it today and still the same issue.You are aware that a full slow repair is exactly the same as performing a complete re-installation?A repair will not touch Saved Games, try to rename your DCS folder in Saved Games to DCS.old and try again. With problems like this, a corruption in Saved Games is often the culprit, a repair/re-installation will never fix.It's also good practice to post the DCS.log, please do!Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
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