The T-50 (PAK-FA) Thread

[shaggy]

Its a beautiful aircraft, much more good looking than the F-22. But the tail looks quite small? the vertical stabilizers that is.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Its a beautiful aircraft, much more good looking than the F-22. But the tail looks quite small? the vertical stabilizers that is.

Because the engines can be used for yaw control. Which is more efficient as well.

[Thor77]

I remember seeing a tail-less design in the background of one of the videos from some Sukhoi press conference

[GGTharos]

Probably the angle makes them look smaller than they really are. Also, since they are all-moving you might not need as much height.

 

Its a beautiful aircraft, much more good looking than the F-22. But the tail looks quite small? the vertical stabilizers that is.

[Sulman]

I do love how it is clearly descended from the Su-27. A very elegant looking aircraft.

[GGTharos]

Yep, let's not let the fact that it doesn't share a single basic dimension with the Su-27 get in the way of that little wishful thought ;)

[Pilotasso]

Its a beautiful aircraft, much more good looking than the F-22. But the tail looks quite small? the vertical stabilizers that is.

 

Probably the angle makes them look smaller than they really are. Also, since they are all-moving you might not need as much height.

 

 

But I think what triggered that tail design was RCS reduction to begin with. :)

[aaron886]

 

SEXY. :shocking:

 

 

Also, since they are all-moving you might not need as much height.

 

That's just false. Height of vertical stabilizers is a stability design factor, and has much less to do with rudder effectiveness. (Dutch Roll tendency/Spiral Instability.) The aircraft WILL be imparted excellent rudder efficacy because of the all-moving design, but there's only so much travel/area that can be utilized anyway. I would suspect the all-moving vertical stabs are designed that way with aerodynamic braking in mind.

[SgtPappy]

Yep, let's not let the fact that it doesn't share a single basic dimension with the Su-27 get in the way of that little wishful thought ;)

 

Really? Maybe literally the dimensions aren't the same, but I think they look quite similar from the back and side.

[aaron886]

The low-slung intakes did remind me of the Flanker...

[Sulman]

Yep, let's not let the fact that it doesn't share a single basic dimension with the Su-27 get in the way of that little wishful thought ;)

 

You'd argue with a signpost, wouldn't you?

 

Proportions & general form show Su27 lineage, if you prefer.

[GGTharos]

Here's your signpost, and not even close to proportions or general form:

 

 

You'd argue with a signpost, wouldn't you?

 

Proportions & general form show Su27 lineage, if you prefer.

[Sulman]

Here's your signpost, and not even close to proportions or general form:

 

 

I see a resemblance. You don't. I wasn't asking for a debate. Move along.

[Cali]

I see a resemblance. You don't. I wasn't asking for a debate. Move along.

 

I see a resemblance to the F-22...:D

[Lucas_From_Hell]

The resemblance is relative.

 

Factually, it is not an aircraft of the Su-27's family, no doubt about that. Now, the fact that some features may recall aircraft of that family isn't much of a surprise. They were designed by the same bureau, and it's more than natural for the engineers involved to incorporate some successful concepts that are also present and were proven in the Su-27 and other of their aircraft.

 

It only depends on how you see it. But if to go by your line of thought, I'd say it resembles A LOT the Blériot XI.

 

...it has wings. :D

[Thor77]

The features that resemble the Su-27 are elegant lines, how the spine transforms into fuselage, highly swept wings, big engines at the back between the twin tails, pancake design,... There is clearly a Su-27 spirit in her, but yeah, it is a whole new plane

[Antartis]

 

Hihihi....car alarms...:D

[Flаnker]

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SvarEU9oEIY

 

Variable intake can be varied between stealth and high power settings

[Zakatak]

Something tells me that this WILL be better then the Raptor (at airshows and propoganda posters at least ;)), but will never get used or come out by the time we have Generation 6 up and running.

[Advicepuppy]

Too bad Russia and the US can't get along better. We always seem sort of at odds. We could do ANYTHING.

[mikoyan]

SvarEU9oEIY

 

Variable intake can be varied between stealth and high power settings

 

What is that an orange juice extractor :megalol: what is the description saying

[Avilator]

What is that an orange juice extractor :megalol: what is the description saying

 

I have no idea what the descriptions are saying.

 

But it looks like the "twisted" setting blocks the fan from being seen by radar, and the "straight" setting minimizes the effect on the airflow to allow for maximum power.

 

Frickin' genius.:book:

[Weta43]

Does seem a nicely Russian solution :-)

However (from the poster of the video) :

"I look, the video has caused excessive resonance. I want to make a clarification. I never said that this thing really stands for T-50, I just had the idea of ​​adaptive radar torsion-blockers for T-50 that I decided to illustrate in 3 d max. However, no current at T-50 could be set ... Here are just afraid of materials to create such a contraption yet."

Edited July 12, 2011 by Weta43

[Avilator]

Does seem a nicely Russian solution :-)

However (from the poster of the video) :

"I look, the video has caused excessive resonance. I want to make a clarification. I never said that this thing really stands for T-50, I just had the idea of ​​adaptive radar torsion-blockers for T-50 that I decided to illustrate in 3 d max. However, no current at T-50 could be set ... Here are just afraid of materials to create such a contraption yet."

 

So the guy came up with this idea, and its not on the actual T-50?