The T-50 (PAK-FA) Thread

[Antartis]

While I do believe it is likely to be a fake, the original image below dooes not appear to be the source to me. The angle to the aircraft is not the same, unless they actually re-drew some of the fuselage lines. For example, compare the nose gear position relative to the right wing or the pilot's head relative to the canopy rail.

 

Of course, it could be a PS job from a difference original image, but I can't find one.

 

 

I am sure is fake.

Because I know ...

That first flight was here 12/1/10 and 13/2/10 says that it is.

1) If so then it has become to the same cloud?

2) How have join the same snow by far one month?

3) The photos are different, but it is a PS to camouflage

4) If you see that has the same white trees by far one month

5) Is the same flight path, the same angle off

6) Surely the photographer caught with a camera several frames [(maybe Canon EOS-1D Mark II (8.3 fps)] from the same point.

7) ect, ect :P

 

Sorry for my bad english

Edited February 17, 2010 by Antartis

[Flаnker]

Quite Correct

 

http://www.timesnow.tv/Russian-fifth-generation-fighter-makes-2nd-flight/articleshow/4338365.cms

Т-50 Has made already 3 flights:pilotfly:

[EvilBivol-1]

I am sure is fake.

Sources on the Russian forums confirm the photo is real. Waiting for official publication.

[159th_Viper]

Т-50 Has made already 3 flights:pilotfly:

 

Aye - Link just confirms Paint-Job :)

[EtherealN]

Aye, and on closer inspection (I shouldn't have stared myself blind at the aircraft itself) the pattern of the smoke plumes from the industries in the background rule out the photos being from the same series.

 

That of course does not rule out PSing, but does make me doubt my previous analysis.

[Vekkinho]

OK, camo PAK-FA photo is genuine (yes there is a camo PAK-FA that departed KnA-Dzhemgi AB) but it was edited with Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 (very obsolete photo editor). No color changes or reshaping of the objects in the photo was done, only slight sharpness edit was applied. So it may be actually taken on Feb 13th with a Canon EOS 450D at 04:08CET (add 9 hours to get KnA local time or think 1:08PM). Possible! Following camera settings were used during taking this photo: 1/800sec exp, F10, ISO200 with a 55mm focal lenght, probably a 18-55 IS kit which means is off the shelf D-SLR pretty much avaliable to mortals and hobbyist.

 

Unpainted PAK-FA pic is EOS-1D mark III taken at 3:32AM CET (12:32 local KnA) on Jan 29th but also with a slight PS-CS3 edit. Bit more professional than later pic, don't you think?!

 

So this proves nothing but that two different cameras were used and camo photo is taken 2 weeks later.

 

Are you sure this 2nd PAK-FA flight happened on 12th and not on 13th of February as the photo says?

[Alex Okean]

T-50 is so stealthy , even if you see it you think that is just a photoshop :megalol:

[Vekkinho]

In addition to that, some of the video footage we saw (PAK-FA with extended undercarriage crossing over Su-27UB canopy frame) is taken on 22nd Jan - week before we heard of initial test flight! So it wasn't initial, it was second flight!

[159th_Viper]

 

Are you sure this 2nd PAK-FA flight happened on 12th and not on 13th of February as the photo says?

 

My understanding - 12 Feb 2nd Flight, 13 Feb 3rd Flight.

 

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a139a16b2-7c04-411a-bd67-5db2e0e980cd&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

[Vekkinho]

My understanding - 12 Feb 2nd Flight, 13 Feb 3rd Flight.

 

So it's a 3rd flight photo!

[Vekkinho]

I can't seem to find any PAK-FA thread(s) on Russian part of Авиановости и События, huh?

[Flаnker]

I can't seem to find any PAK-FA thread(s) on Russian part of Авиановости и События, huh?

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=27972 ;)

[Vekkinho]

Some of the info available is misleading. Some state that plane was disassembled to be taken to Zhukovsky Gromov institute where entire new building was built for purposes of testing the PAK-FA.

 

However, prototype(s) are scheduled for total of 6 flights at Dzhemgi, tests lasting 'til early April.

[Flаnker]

Some of the info available is misleading. Some state that plane was disassembled to be taken to Zhukovsky Gromov institute where entire new building was built for purposes of testing the PAK-FA.

 

However, prototype(s) are scheduled for total of 6 flights at Dzhemgi, tests lasting 'til early April.

Yes it so. Soon Т-50 it will be delivered in Zhukovsky

[Vekkinho]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=27972 ;)

 

Thanks, whoa! 178 pages in total to read!

[Vekkinho]

Couple of Jan 29th stills:

 

 

 

 

[jerom1992]

Couple of Jan 29th stills

 

 

 

That drawing is way off the real thing

[Vekkinho]

IT is, but it's an old drawing based upon this impression:

 

 

But it's pretty accurate considering it was an artist impression of rumors!

Edited February 17, 2010 by Vekkinho

[159th_Viper]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fuel

 

[Vekkinho]

Interesting Raptor / PAK-FA pic!

[Pilotasso]

..but I think something is off. The FA's vertical fins are very small and on the superinposed drawing they are almost the same as F-22's which are the biggest ever.

[EtherealN]

Pilotasso, the dimensions on the colored drawing and the overlay are not the same. And note that there's a distinct lack of Suchoi markings on them, so we probably shouldn't expect them to be correct.

[topol-m]

What is that? :huh:

[Nate--IRL--]

You see it better in the picture in this post

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=837146&postcount=699

 

Nate

[mikoyan]

You see it better in the picture in this post

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=837146&postcount=699

 

Nate

 

looks like a (grill) su-27 have two on each side of the intake

 

http://www.afwing.com/images/su27/Su-27_intake2.jpg