waiting for resolution ED/RAZBAM Situation Info & Discussion

[draconus]

Till this time every DCS module was supposed to be working in next versions without any end of support date. That was how they did their business - one-off sales. No matter how old the module. If it got too old (over 10 years, like Ka-50, A-10C or F-5E) they made some paid refresh of the model, textures and maybe added some new stuff - and it's OK. But this time they expect users to accept the end of life of 4 popular aircraft! Because Razbam... I don't wanna know. I bought from ED, on their E-shop, sending money to ED account. I'm only interested in a solution.

[alejandr0]

1 hour ago, PhantomHans said:

Edit To Add: If ED had made it clear at the time of purchase that they considered the AV-8B module "Old, unsupported, and we can kill it any time we want" I probably wouldn't have purchased it.  Sadly, they didn't bother to make that clear.

Honestly, I doubt we'll get any meaningful response. It feels like they’re just waiting for the discussion to die down on its own.

[ChuckJäger]

1 hour ago, PhantomHans said:

If ED had made it clear at the time of purchase that they considered the AV-8B module "Old, unsupported, and we can kill it any time we want" I probably wouldn't have purchased it.  Sadly, they didn't bother to make that clear.

precisely.  I get that all software has a shelf life, to an extent.  But ED seems to be somehow directly involved in either not ensuring there is some security of these modules in perpetuity and/or directly involved in RB ceasing support altogether due some sort of contractual dispute.  

EITHER WAY - ED should have done more to keep the integrity of these modules in tact.  

I'm sure RB isn't without fault here.. but again, ED is the one that benefits most from the sale of any of these items - they own the core sandbox and the enjoy the benefit of outside developers making it better.  There is no doubt that HB moved the needle greatly with the F-14 and now the F-4 and that RB did the same with the F-15E and AV-8.  And with the proverbial swipe of a pen (or key mash) the hundreds of dollars spent on their modules will likely wither away.  

This is a poor business model.  For me, it will be very, very difficult to spend any more money here.  I can only hope that something can change that for me personally.

[plott1964]

37 minutes ago, alejandr0 said:

Honestly, I doubt we'll get any meaningful response. It feels like they’re just waiting for the discussion to die down on its own.

Dear Eagle Dynamics, The DCS community demands that you provide some kind of legitimate, clear and easily understandable response to what the future looks like for Razbam mods that were purchased well before all this drama started and what the current state of that relationship is. The community also requires an explanation of the future plans for all Early Access mods and when they are to be deemed complete. ...I really don't know why we have to ask.

Also, Is it wrong to expect that all official DCS mods be working and functional at least 99% post every update?

Edited 1 hour ago by plott1964

[NineLine]

54 minutes ago, plott1964 said:

Dear Eagle Dynamics, The DCS community demands that you provide some kind of legitimate, clear and easily understandable response to what the future looks like for Razbam mods that were purchased well before all this drama started and what the current state of that relationship is. The community also requires an explanation of the future plans for all Early Access mods and when they are to be deemed complete. ...I really don't know why we have to ask.

Also, Is it wrong to expect that all official DCS mods be working and functional at least 99% post every update?

I'm sorry, but everything we can share right now is in the first post. Thanks

[Beirut]

1 hour ago, plott1964 said:

Dear Eagle Dynamics, The DCS community demands that you . . . 

 

We can demand things? 

 

Cool! I'm making a list.