Some love for the axis side?

[Winger]

Isnt it about time to get some more axis planes in the virtual skies?
I mean when was the last axis piston engine plane released?
In the meantime we get one allied plane after another without anything to put up against them....

Isit reall that much effort to for example make some variants of the A8 available?
Or a few more 109 variants?

Allied:
P51
P47
Spitfire
Mosquito
F4U
I-16

Soon:
Bearcat (or was it the hellcat)
LA 5 - what is this supposed to be flown against? Just to fly around in it i can get one in MSFS, cant i?

Axis:
BF 109 K4
FW 190 A8
FW 190 D9

Soon:
Zero (probably will be 2 years from now)

Tiny little imbalance IMHO.

Dont get me wrong. I love each and every plane in DCS. Its a great sim.
But there is simply far too little that can be put up against each other while maintaining ANY KIND of historical accuracy....

Thats just not understandable for me.

Winger

Edited 4 hours ago by Winger

[razo+r]

Now with the PTO it seems to go somewhat into that direction of historical accurate matchups.

And we get the La-7, not La-5.

But besides that, there were plans about a different variant of the A8. But just like the AI 109G6 that was planned to come, I think it's safe to say as of now, it's just too much work/absolutely not a priority.

I too would love some more axis aircraft, but if you look at the grand schemes of things, it's gonna take another decade probably before we see anything in that regard.

Edited 3 hours ago by razo+r

[Rudel_chw]

48 minutes ago, Winger said:

Isit reall that much effort to for example make some variants of the A8 available?

 

Yes, developing simulated aircraft on DCS is a labor intensive job, which can take well over a year even for a "simple" variant. The only way such a development would be worthwhile is if there are enough DCS users willing to purchase it. As we already have two variants of the Fw-190 my guess is that not many people would purchase a third, I certainly wouldn't as I'd rather have a completely new aircraft.

 

48 minutes ago, Winger said:

Or a few more 109 variants?

 

My guess is that an earlier 109, like the 109E, would sell well only if it was acompanied by a similar spitfire variant, say a Mk II, or even a Hawker Hurricane of the period. For my taste I would purchase a Spanish Civil War Bf-109B in an instant, and pair it against the I-16 (even tough the DCS variant is a much later one).

 

In my opinion, a WW2 best seller would be the Me-262 as it would appeal to both WW2 buffs and early jets lovers.

 

48 minutes ago, Winger said:

Dont get me wrong. I love each and every plane in DCS. Its a great sim.
But there is simply far too little that can be put up against each other while maintaining ANY KIND of historical accuracy....

 

Well, for one not every user is fixated on reliving history just as it happened, on my case I love to do missions that stray away from history a bit, for example having chilean P-47 doghfight against F4U from Argentine for example  

 

The best way to convince ED that there is in fact a market for WW2 is to BUY .. that's why I have purchased every WW2 Module so far (and every map), and I'm enjoying the Corsair a lot, in spite of its expected early toothing bugs. And that's why I will purchase the La-7 as soon as it hits the store.

 

Eduardo

 

 

[Slippa]

Ah, this ol chestnut.

I’m still a bit surprised at us getting the Corsair so won’t complain too much. I do love my propellers , we need more though. Flyable He111s, Me110s, Ju88s anyone? Hopefully we’ll see the Lancaster take to our skies someday, be good if ED dropped us I dunno, a nice little B25 to be getting on with? 

As Rudel pointed out, these things take a loooooooooong time. If they’re started at all.

8 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

My guess is that an earlier 109, like the 109E, would sell well only if it was acompanied by a similar spitfire variant, say a Mk II, or even a Hawker Hurricane of the period.

Take my money for all of em.  The 262 would be a perfect compromise too, early jets don’t come a lot earlier .

[Winger]

Yes, Everyone i know would buy whatever they would bring in regards to variants.
Heck i would even pay 50 bucks for some variants of one of the available airplanes.

[Silver_Dragon]

1 hour ago, Winger said:

Isnt it about time to get some more axis planes in the virtual skies?
I mean when was the last axis piston engine plane released?
In the meantime we get one allied plane after another without anything to put up against them....

Isit reall that much effort to for example make some variants of the A8 available?
Or a few more 109 variants?

Allied:
P51
P47
Spitfire
Mosquito
F4U
I-16

Soon:
Bearcat (or was it the hellcat)
LA 5 - what is this supposed to be flown against? Just to fly around in it i can get one in MSFS, cant i?

Axis:
BF 109 K4
FW 190 A8
FW 190 D9

Soon:
Zero (probably will be 2 years from now)

Tiny little imbalance IMHO.

Dont get me wrong. I love each and every plane in DCS. Its a great sim.
But there is simply far too little that can be put up against each other while maintaining ANY KIND of historical accuracy....

Thats just not understandable for me.

Winger

ED has building the F6F Hellcat and the A6M5 Zero, with plans to make Battle of Britain Aircrafts and the Me262 on a future.

The start of WW2 aircrafts coming from ED as a "legend" series initialy by ED P-51D / Fw-190D9, no has a real WW2 scenery. Remember WW2 was planned by RRG Studios 3rs Party as a Standalone product outside DCS W, with totaly irreal aircrafts (Spitfire Mk IX, P-47D, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A8, Me262), as a Kickstarted with end defunt, and ED recover the proyect and complite many of modules. On fact, ED has continue make "legends" as Mosquito, and now has start to centred on PTO WW2.

The other 3rd parties centred on WW2 aircrafts has:

• Magnitude 3: the actual WW2 F4-U Corsair (has plans to more WW2 modules on a future, surely PTO). 
• Octopus-G: I-16 type 24, and on production La-7 and the future Po-2, centred on Soviet East Front modules.
• No more 3rd partes has claimed WW2 modules yet. And actualy, only ED has intent centred on "historical accuracy" with Marianas WW2 1944, and expected move to BoB 1941 on a future.

Build acurated modules has a complex work, and no, that not easy. If someone like make some more content, recomend build a 3rd party team centred only on WW2.

Edited 2 hours ago by Silver_Dragon

[Winger]

I know making these modules is not easy. No hard feelings on ED. I am just dreaming on some aircraft variety like IL2 offers it with the feeling of flight we get in DCS.
In exchange i could live with a little less in depth modeling of systems.
Something like WWII Flamig cliffs could be a huge moneymaker IMHO.

[Silver_Dragon]

10 minutes ago, Winger said:

I know making these modules is not easy. No hard feelings on ED. I am just dreaming on some aircraft variety like IL2 offers it with the feeling of flight we get in DCS.
In exchange i could live with a little less in depth modeling of systems.
Something like WWII Flamig cliffs could be a huge moneymaker IMHO.

ED has no talk nothing about a WW2 FC, and no into your plans. On fact, I dont like that convert on a WT..... has better continue building FF modules. and more and more teams enter into DCS.

On fact has many "size" to expand WW2:

• Missing teams centred on WTO size and missing war teathers as mediterranean and east front maps (By Ugra media / Orbx / OnReTech on a future), has only matter of time.
• Missing a real UK 3rd party team to build Commonweal WW2 stuff, as others centred on Germany, Italy, France, etc. Stuff
• A expansion on WW2 Assets pack as content with the PTO to improve WTO, and more on others teathers (ED show a T-34 on 2025 and Beyond video).

Remember, build modules has no a "balance", has a problem about the available info and other stuff to make cool modules.

Edited 2 hours ago by Silver_Dragon

[MAXsenna]

Yes, Everyone i know would buy whatever they would bring in regards to variants.
Heck i would even pay 50 bucks for some variants of one of the available airplanes.

Same here! I'd get anything just to keep the WWII spark going!

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[Doughguy]

With PTO looming, i´m pretty sure ETO is to be considered "done".