Changing Measurements to Imperial

[celestHawk]

Hello, 

quick question as I'm looking for that feature/setting for a while. 

So how in God's name do I use this in other planes or it is newly implemented for that module only - i.e. I would like to use knots and feets for all planes in cockpit?

Reference video: 

 

[razo+r]

It's not implemented in all aircraft.

[celestHawk]

7 minutes ago, razo+r said:

It's not implemented in all aircraft.

Is there an list with planes it is implemented? A setting to look for in order to determent if it is? Thank you!

Edited yesterday at 07:20 AM by celestHawk

[razo+r]

17 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

Is there an list with planes it is implemented?

Not that I know of.

17 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

A setting to look for in order to determent if it is? Thank you!

It's either the avionic language or the unit setting in the gameplay settings, I don't remember. According to the manual, the unit setting should only affect the outside measurements, but maybe worth a shot to try too.. Some may also have specific metric or imperial cockpit liveries in the special settings. For some you can download such a livery.

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb razo+r:

It's not implemented in all aircraft.

A good opportunity to familiarize yourself with the metric system 

[YoYo]

Generally, you should fly the MiG-29 with the metric system for obvious reasons. Even the planes used by the GDR were Soviet-style. This means that if someone changes metric to imperial and the cockpit to English, it's a form of fake (for example, even Iranian MiG-29s had Cyrillic characters in their cockpits). It's like having to fly an F-16 in the metric system because I know it better. I propose 3 rules:

1/ keep it real

2/ learn and develop

3/ be ambitious

Edited yesterday at 10:41 AM by YoYo

[celestHawk]

19 hours ago, YoYo said:

Generally, you should fly the MiG-29 with the metric system for obvious reasons. Even the planes used by the GDR were Soviet-style. This means that if someone changes metric to imperial and the cockpit to English, it's a form of fake (for example, even Iranian MiG-29s had Cyrillic characters in their cockpits). It's like having to fly an F-16 in the metric system because I know it better. I propose 3 rules:

1/ keep it real

2/ learn and develop

3/ be ambitious

Generally you should keep your propositions and suggestions to yourself ESPECIALY when the question is related to a feature of the commercial product and not a mod!

I genuinely asked a question related to a product showed in a presentation, adding the reason I'm looking for to know!

P.S. Iranians have also F-14's with western cockpits and Chinese doesn't use any Cyrillic or western writings in theirs J/JF cockpits  

19 hours ago, TheBiggerBass said:

A good opportunity to familiarize yourself with the metric system 

 Fair enough,

however I'm a native user of metric system and related to flying I'm more than comfortable with Imperial measurements as I started with western products and have a great deal of confusion when sit in a eastern cockpit. 

[celestHawk]

22 hours ago, razo+r said:

Not that I know of.

It's either the avionic language or the unit setting in the gameplay settings, I don't remember. According to the manual, the unit setting should only affect the outside measurements, but maybe worth a shot to try too.. Some may also have specific metric or imperial cockpit liveries in the special settings. For some you can download such a livery.

Thank you for the suggestions. Changing liveries is one thing and despite the community efforts to make translations of them it doesn't relate to the instruments  same deal with the provided by ED i.e. Cockpits of Su-27/J-11. 

Ah well, I'll wait for the official release and do more research on the topic!

[Akiazusa]

I don't think changing unit to Imperial is too unrealistic for mig29 as everything is the IRL GAF mig-29 manual is in Imperial unit.

I don't remember any other aircraft in DCS has this feature since it's a new feature for dcs.

u can change unit from Metric to Imperial in L39 if u set avionics language setting to English 

Some aircraft have limited ability to change unit,like A-10C using IFFCC manual u can change distant unit to Metric to better coordinate with army I guss,but everything else is still in Imperial regardless the setting. ka50 u can switch everything on ABRIS(which is like a more advanced NS430) to different unit,but unit for steam gauges and HUD will keep in Metric.

Also IIRC for FC3 version of Mig29, Mig29A and S are using Metric but Mig29G is using Imperial,but u have to switch aircraft to get that unit change.

(JF has a English cockpits since it's designed for export)

Edited 11 hours ago by Akiazusa

[YoYo]

1 hour ago, celestHawk said:

.... when the question is related to a feature of the commercial product and not a mod!

Hi. It doesn't matter if it's a paid add-on or a mod. If you want to maintain realism and move forward, use the metric system. Of course, that's your decision, which makes no sense to me for the simple reasons already described.

Btw. Of course, there are exceptions, such Polaris Ghost Squadron as a used plane, but this is a completely different version and, of course, purchased for private (in this case) or training needs.

1 hour ago, celestHawk said:

P.S. Iranians have also F-14's with western cockpits 

After all, the F-14 is an American aircraft (descriptions is another matter); it can't use the metric system. Iran used its own systems, depending on the manufacturer, and as you can see, the guys managed. I can't imagine flying an F-16 with the metric system because it's "so convenient" for me; switching isn't that difficult. Even though it's your decision (what I don't interfere with) trust me and be more ambitious .  I know there were occasions when the Russians were able to produce cockpit descriptions in English for foreign customers like Malaysia or India, but these were very rare. The entire Eastern Bloc (Warsaw Pact) used Cyrillic for their aircraft. Btw. as for China, some types were developed in cooperation (like the J-17) and for export. These planes also have English explanations in the cockpit in real life, which is perfectly fine, so I don't know what example this is. However, you probably know that when you hover your mouse over a button, a "bubble" with English text will appear, even if the textures in the cockpit are Cyrillic.

Edited 10 hours ago by YoYo

[celestHawk]

7 hours ago, YoYo said:

Hi. It doesn't matter if it's a paid add-on or a mod. If you want to maintain realism and move forward, use the metric system. Of course, that's your decision, which makes no sense to me for the simple reasons already described.

Btw. Of course, there are exceptions, such Polaris Ghost Squadron as a used plane, but this is a completely different version and, of course, purchased for private (in this case) or training needs.

After all, the F-14 is an American aircraft (descriptions is another matter); it can't use the metric system. Iran used its own systems, depending on the manufacturer, and as you can see, the guys managed. I can't imagine flying an F-16 with the metric system because it's "so convenient" for me; switching isn't that difficult. Even though it's your decision (what I don't interfere with) trust me and be more ambitious .  I know there were occasions when the Russians were able to produce cockpit descriptions in English for foreign customers like Malaysia or India, but these were very rare. The entire Eastern Bloc (Warsaw Pact) used Cyrillic for their aircraft. Btw. as for China, some types were developed in cooperation (like the J-17) and for export. These planes also have English explanations in the cockpit in real life, which is perfectly fine, so I don't know what example this is. However, you probably know that when you hover your mouse over a button, a "bubble" with English text will appear, even if the textures in the cockpit are Cyrillic.

The hole point of my OP was to make MiG and Su into Imperial measurements and your explanation about Iran, Russia and Chine IS MY POINT that it has nothing with realism but entirely necessity for the current user/pilot/army!   

P.S. Hovering over buttons is programming side of the model not related to cockpit textures  

[Dača]

9 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

The hole point of my OP was to make MiG and Su into Imperial measurements and your explanation about Iran, Russia and Chine IS MY POINT that it has nothing with realism but entirely necessity for the current user/pilot/army!   

P.S. Hovering over buttons is programming side of the model not related to cockpit textures  

MiG-29A (9.12A) was produced during '80s exclusively and only for Warsaw pact east European nations (not Russia, btw). It came only in metric and Russian. I also don't see your point. You will still get English and Imperial units in this module for gaming purposes.

[YoYo]

5 minutes ago, Dača said:

MiG-29A (9.12A) was produced during '80s exclusively and only for Warsaw pact east European nations (not Russia, btw). It came only in metric and Russian. I also don't see your point. You will still get English and Imperial units in this module for gaming purposes.

This.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

43 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

The hole point of my OP was to make MiG and Su into Imperial measurements

IRL? That makes no sense. Metric is SI and used by 96% of the world population, and even the US is (very slowly) converting to metric - finally.

[celestHawk]

11 hours ago, Akiazusa said:

I don't think changing unit to Imperial is too unrealistic for mig29 as everything is the IRL GAF mig-29 manual is in Imperial unit.

I don't remember any other aircraft in DCS has this feature since it's a new feature for dcs.

u can change unit from Metric to Imperial in L39 if u set avionics language setting to English 

Some aircraft have limited ability to change unit,like A-10C using IFFCC manual u can change distant unit to Metric to better coordinate with army I guss,but everything else is still in Imperial regardless the setting. ka50 u can switch everything on ABRIS(which is like a more advanced NS430) to different unit,but unit for steam gauges and HUD will keep in Metric.

Also IIRC for FC3 version of Mig29, Mig29A and S are using Metric but Mig29G is using Imperial,but u have to switch aircraft to get that unit change.

(JF has a English cockpits since it's designed for export)

...are using Metric but Mig29G is using Imperial...

Only thing I must do now is to change the module to be avail on 'Combined Joint Task Forces' and I'll have Imp's on my hud  

 

P.S. The rest of you with useless opinions...don't waste my time any more, would you?!

Edited 34 minutes ago by celestHawk

[NineLine]

On 9/14/2025 at 3:39 AM, YoYo said:

Generally, you should fly the MiG-29 with the metric system for obvious reasons. Even the planes used by the GDR were Soviet-style. This means that if someone changes metric to imperial and the cockpit to English, it's a form of fake (for example, even Iranian MiG-29s had Cyrillic characters in their cockpits). It's like having to fly an F-16 in the metric system because I know it better. I propose 3 rules:

1/ keep it real

2/ learn and develop

3/ be ambitious

Or appreciate the options to make it easier for all to access at a level that is comfortable to them.