DCS, the REDFOR imbalance and Flankers

[Lyrode]

Of course a Flanker will be well received, but it will definitely kill Fulcrum sale.

And again, it as a fighter doesn't bring more features, since Fulcrum is the Flanker we have at hone. Bomber attacker and interceptors, such as Su-24, Su-25 and Mig25/31 would all bring more to DCS than Su-27, since they fit different roles.

Speaking of FF redfor heavy fighter, I consider F-14A 95gr to be the next one. lol

[MAXsenna]

Of course a Flanker will be well received, but it will definitely kill Fulcrum sale.
And again, it as a fighter doesn't bring more features, since Fulcrum is the Flanker we have at hone. Bomber attacker and interceptors, such as Su-24, Su-25 and Mig25/31 would all bring more to DCS than Su-27, since they fit different roles.
Speaking of FF redfor heavy fighter, I consider F-14A 95gr to be the next one. lol

Highly disagree! If they go for an Su-27, we probably won't see it for years, and the majority of the Fulcrum sales will be done, and I guess those that already have the Fulcrum will even get the Su-27. Actually, if one is into Redfor, one will get anything and everything Redfor.

I do however want an FF Su-25 more that said.

Question for more knowledgeable people than me. Could a development of the Su-27 speed up development of J-11 and Su-33? I'm speaking primarily of systems, not graphics and flight model.

Cheers!


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[draconus]

7 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Could a development of the Su-27 speed up development of J-11 and Su-33?

Yes, they share a lot of the Su-27 avionics/systems/weapons.

Edited Thursday at 01:04 PM by draconus

[MAXsenna]

Yes, they share a lot of the Su-27 avionics/systems/weapons.

Thanks! Now, who wouldn't want a carrier based Redfor? Need SC version of the Kuznetsov then.

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[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Su-33 doesn’t make a lot of sense though: you won’t be able to take off with more than 50% fuel and 2 (or 4 at most) AA missiles.

[MAXsenna]

1 minute ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Su-33 doesn’t make a lot of sense though: you won’t be able to take off with more than 50% fuel and 2 (or 4 at most) AA missiles.

And here I thought you were an advocate for things that doesn't make sense!

Easiest module to AAR though!

[draconus]

17 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Su-33 doesn’t make a lot of sense though: you won’t be able to take off with more than 50% fuel and 2 (or 4 at most) AA missiles.

It's not practical, safe or SOP to launch from the ramp super heavy but it is totally possible, esp. with the WOD help.

[Lyrode]

5小时前，MAXsenna说：

Highly disagree! If they go for an Su-27, we probably won't see it for years, and the majority of the Fulcrum sales will be done

Speaking of which, the fulcrum and blackshark are from the same team. By their pace we may see another ED redfor in, let's say, 4 years. The team is still busy on finishing the fulcrum though.

To be fair, as a redfor guy, whatever they cook you'll get it anyways.

Now that we have proper SPO-15, N019 and OLS29 modelling, Su-27 seems to be well based.

I can't lie Su-27 is my second favorite plane to get in DCS, and do wish to see it in 2026AB, but not like it's happening soon.

[MAXsenna]

Speaking of which, the fulcrum and blackshark are from the same team. By their pace we may see another ED redfor in, let's say, 4 years. The team is still busy on finishing the fulcrum though.
To be fair, as a redfor guy, whatever they cook you'll get it anyways.
Now that we have proper SPO-15, N019 and OLS29 modelling, Su-27 seems to be well based.
I can't lie Su-27 is my second favorite plane to get in DCS, and do wish to see it in 2026AB, but not like it's happening soon.

That I didn't know, and then I guess you're unfortunately right. No new Redfor for a few years then, unless the team that hopefully are working on the upgrade/new free Su-25, is another team. Then perhaps an FF Su-25 might see the day first. Wouldn't bother me at all!

Cheers!

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[Beirut]

7 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

I do however want an FF Su-25 more that said.

 

What he said. 

[Silver_Dragon]

17 hours ago, Lyrode said:

Speaking of which, the fulcrum and blackshark are from the same team. By their pace we may see another ED redfor in, let's say, 4 years. The team is still busy on finishing the fulcrum though.

To be fair, as a redfor guy, whatever they cook you'll get it anyways.

Now that we have proper SPO-15, N019 and OLS29 modelling, Su-27 seems to be well based.

I can't lie Su-27 is my second favorite plane to get in DCS, and do wish to see it in 2026AB, but not like it's happening soon.

There's no Redforce team in ED; there are several teams that build modules, and we've never been told there was a specific one. Remember, before the Ka-50, we had to go back to the Belsimtek modules to find anything red aircraft... so that team could very well have been making blue modules without a problem.

The only thing that's clear is that ED has seen fit to convert several FC modules to FF (Mig-29A/F-15C), but remember, we don't know the future plans after the F-35 and it's quite possible that it will be more blue than red (I dont talk about WW2, that other diferent team). Also, seeing that the Mig-29A was a Belarusian version, I have a strong feeling that they're going to go in that direction if they try to make another aircraft, and the next one will very possibly be the Su-27P FF or perhaps an A-10A FF. I don't expect a Mig-29S at the moment, much less something more advanced, unless there's a surprise.

I also wouldn't rule out ED switching to early or mid-Cold War aircraft if it starts discussing Korea or Vietnam, when the round Earth arrives, instead of switching to a 2010 "red" aircraft.

[MAXsenna]

17 hours ago, Beirut said:

 

What he said. 

That's what she said!  @Raven (Elysian Angel)

Edited Friday at 02:11 PM by MAXsenna