Civilian assets to reflect Rules Of Engagement challenges

[shagrat]

If we want to recreate the 1990ies Balkan crisis, United Nations intervention and subsequent KFOR mission, the key challenge for NATO and especially the pilots, was the Rules Of Engagement and rigorous need to identify combatants and ensure no harm to civilians.

At the moment it's nearly impossible to recreate something like this in DCS. You can add some static cows or "US sailors" or deck crew to the neutral faction, or place an airshow crowd, but that's not doing much to make a convincing "decision making process".

I love the idea of recreating real life scenarios, but with the current assets available it's not really recreating the actual challenge, rather we will get another "if it moves shoot it - If it's green it's hostile" style conflict.

What I would love to see, is either OnReTech or ED adding a couple civilian assets, most desperately needed:

- civilians on foot with NO weapon

- the "Technicals" we have currently, but WITHOUT the guns, basically the plain trucks

- a couple normal cars (or at least an updated VAZ-2109 with a couple different colors)

- (optional) a handful of buildings (or base components for buildings) that match the map style, so mission creators can add target buildings/objects easily and dynamically. The later being a key option to dynamically spawn static buildings in multiplayer missions.

Maybe there could be a collaboration with one of the community asset creators like currenthill, Massun92 or integrate Eightball's civilian vehicles to add those kind of assets?

We don't even need everything at once, just an "Insurgent AKM" as "Insurgent civil" without the weapon or the Technical (scout HLDshk) without the Dshk would go a long way.

What do you think? Can it be done?

 

[JagHond]

Agree with you, mate.
Would be a godsend that, and I've said all.
Let's see what we will be given about, then.
 

With best regards.

[Avenger31]

I couldn say better than you my firend and totally agree with you, something that we need in DCS for sure. 

[Kang]

Well put together. This is popular wish for good reasons and you pointed out how it can be implemented with a minimum amount of work necessary. I only have to add that the whole rules-of-engagement issue has only grown in real-life operations in areas like our Syria map.

[Czar]

Must have +1

[twistking]

+1 
Don't forget civilian aircraft!

[Exorcet]

This is a very importing missing capability in DCS.

Along with the assets we need AI behavior related to this as well, namely AI that does not react instantly and has some uncertainty about its target, at least initially. Ideally with different levels of response time based on intel, AWACS and etc support, and previous contact with other units.

[draconus]

Yes, all that plus airliners!

[Tomcatter87]

I was really happy about the civilian units ED added in the latest update. However more of those are desperately needed - like sedans, tractors and people.

I'd even say more animals like goats or sheep would be cool - are those dots moving on a hillside in Afghanistan insurgents or is it a local shepherd?