A.S Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) You know topol...what is more funey.... If you catch up on latest Theories, i mean the ones made by mainstream science, you will see things like Relativity-Theory, Quantum Mechanics, Particle and EM researches ( Large Hardon Colider so to speak), String and M-Theory....mathematical equations over equations to combine and to explain all those findings so they make sense, trying to combine their relations in order find the "world formula" etc etc....mathematical inventions of 11th dimension in order make the equations work out....and so far and so on.... you might ask yourself at one point, "holy crap...how deep and phantasized is all that?" Science surely has to specific points manifested proofs and standpoints, but beyond it becomes REALLY wild....really really wild....and somtimes, the answers may be simpler then thought. Therefore i dont laugh about Keshes work for example, i know he is a very weirdo guy - cmon his sayings are tooo good to be true - but yet i respect his approchings, because at the end of the day, they arent "wilder" then those of conventional science are. Whereas normal science is specifying paritcles, quarks etc etc etc. for example....he and even back in days Ed. L. say: all are just 2 poles or "forcefields" in very specific behaviour, and only their kind of interaction, position and relations defines matter, antimatter, electrons and so on.. oh yeah..and light and gravity of course.... I find this way of thinking VERY interesing (although i just described their thinking very very simplyfied here) i would love to see, modern science pulling that ideas through a mathematical test-model. (Btw, i made resarch on Keshe to be sure he is not just a nutcase...he has relyable backgrounds in science or registers) Einstein is a soo good example for that too.....who in world would have ever imagined the results of his work before ...everyone "normal" would have said its bolloks, magics, nonsense.....you know what i mean? Who are we, to say we know so much, just because someone, somewhere proofed something and we refer to it and only to it and everything beyond we dont dare to ask, and if someone does we lol about him?.... Thats sad. Edited September 5, 2009 by A.S [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
topol-m Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) Dude, when i said "reality show" i was referring to the discussion you have with GGTharos and i`m just expecting something similar with nscode ;) Don`t take the "bread and circuses" from the crowd. I find your dispute very interesting. :D Edited September 5, 2009 by topol-m [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
A.S Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Actually i enjoy that circus with GG here :D ....ok understood [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
nscode Posted September 6, 2009 Posted September 6, 2009 Dude, when i said "reality show" i was referring to the discussion you have with GGTharos and i`m just expecting something similar with nscode ;) Don`t take the "bread and circuses" from the crowd. I find your dispute very interesting. :D nscode left his enthusiasm for such discussions back on chemtrail topics ;) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
topol-m Posted September 6, 2009 Posted September 6, 2009 The chemtrails are a possible source of energy... :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
A.S Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) Here i have another example to "inspire" minds... After some 20 years of tireless dedication to his in depth research on unification, Nassim Haramein’s most recent scientific paper, “The Schwarzschild Proton,” received an award at the University of Liège, Belgium during the 9th International Conference CASYS'09 (Computing Anticipatory Systems). Chosen by a panel of 11 peer reviewers, Haramein's paper won the prestigious "Best Paper Award" in the field of “Physics, Quantum Mechanics, Relativity, Field Theory, and Gravitation.” This significant paper marks a new paradigm in the world of quantum theory, as it describes the nuclei of an atom as a mini black hole, where protons are attracted to each other by gravitation rather than some mysterious undefined “strong force.” This radical new view of the quantum world produces a unification of the forces and appropriately predicts measured values for the nucleon of atoms. Think about the differneces between "KNOWLEDGE" and the safety it provides, but that sometimes the only safety you achieve is the one to end in a trap. VIDEO: http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=4907540922643918266&ei=vmCkSrCMJJzE2wKn59TyBA&q=Crossing+the+Event+Horizon&hl=de&dur=3# btw. yoda if you see this..you might like it (fractal universe) Edited September 7, 2009 by A.S 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
monotwix Posted September 8, 2009 Posted September 8, 2009 It’s might be nice to listen to lectures some times, but this one is just another detailed one, couple of hours short of infinity. Although interesting, in my view it doesn’t open an insight into the fundamental questions about the gravity or DNA which leaves it in the square one or nasty circle. There is no reduction of price for life on Mars basically. Thinking outside the box but which one. I stick to what I understand because it answers a lot of questions and understanding not to/or dismiss theories is another part of that understanding. I like the vacuum=zero because whatever runs through myspace is just a traffic in the real world. Geometrically speaking if you have a 3d model on your PC and than clone shift it to somewhere else and delete it, than historically speaking the coordinate system for that space is the same. I like vacuum=0 because it might become useful as a point of reference where all sorts of energy could take place. We are not effected by neutrinos directly, but very much so rather by a lightning bolt when it happens. Energy. Well hypothetically and practically 300 bl, that is what the majority is looking at. Philosophy is not a new subject, how do you deviate from it as an old business. For me bioluminescence says it all. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
HenryRyanHolmes Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Try to look out this reliable review on Magniwork Generator. http://hubpages.com/hub/magniworkgeneratorreview
159th_Viper Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 **Oh F*#k here we go again**......Somebody pay $50 and tell us if it works already :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
winz Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 I like how they add trademark after 'Magnetic Power Modules', certainly adds credit to the whole article. And 2004-2005? That's 5years ago... if it is a new, worldbreaking, technology, where is it? Or they only ship it to africa, like cold fusion generators? The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
Pilotasso Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Try to look out this reliable review on Magniwork Generator. http://hubpages.com/hub/magniworkgeneratorreview Anything that generates energy out of nothing is a hoax. I say again it violates the fundamental laws of physics. Its the same as the geenie-in-a-bottle legend. :) .
RIPTIDE Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 What a gem of a thread. Why in every forum, there is a bunch of lunatics just lurking around? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Protos Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Its impossible to crate energy from nothing. From nothing yes, for very very very little no. Ο ΤΟΛΜΩΝ ΝΙΚΑ http://www.hellenicsqn.com (under construction)
YorZor Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 They should sticky this thread just for it's good laughs :D
monotwix Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 What a gem of a thread. Why in every forum, there is a bunch of lunatics just lurking around? Well you can provide the evidence of your lunacy by skating instead of lurking. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
winz Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 sooooo, the BIGBANG is HOAX? You realize he was talking aboult laws present in our spacetime. Talking about big bang in this matter is irrelevent, because these laws were created by the big bang (as was our spacetime). Those lunatics ca(o)me up with totally crazy ideas like that space is crooked and time slows down with speed and things can excist at 2 places same time, but only if you observe (light bulp!! zPe) ....etc etc Those people were not linked with wild companies trying to sell 'revolutionary' 'worldenergysaving' gizmos to 'simple' people. Everytime you see a gizmo like this on a page, it's directly linked to some product somebody is trying to sell. Einstein did not ran around yelling at people 'come sit in this rocket for $49, it will fly faster and thus you will age slower'. He made experiments to prove his theories, he published research papers and let them be tested and criticized by other scientist. If I want valid, believable, scientific research in the field of gasoline fuels, I will not turn to Shell's marketing department, would you? I would like to see published reaserch papers present i.e in IEEE library, and not on some hastly-wordgenerated-webpage. (honestly, how can you believe sombody who's claiming, that he had done the scientific breakthrough of milenia, if he even cannot make his webpage right) 1 The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
Pilotasso Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) From nothing yes, for very very very little no. Define very little, you talking about potential energy pepertualy being transformed into a torrent of kinetic energy. :D sooooo, the BIGBANG is HOAX? :D:D:D:D the fundamental lack of understanding of nature called laws of physis ? Seriously, beyond all that what is claimed to be known ask any serious scientist HOW much is DARK ..and im not talking about DARK-matter or -energy. Big Bang theory as we know it can be proven wrong at any time because it deals with multi dimensions and strange-lets, not macroscopic classical mechanics. If you go that way pretty soon you put in doubt that a wheel actually turns. Seriously AS, this is basic math. Remember the balance between kinetic and potential energy? Guess what, magnet generators inventors are saying you can extract infinite kinetic energy out of limited potential energy. Imagine you go down hill to get enough speed to climb mount Everest next to it. Its as simple as this. Insisting in this magnet stuff is like plunging into Wile E. Coyote territory :) Edited July 19, 2010 by Pilotasso .
Pilotasso Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) I dont follow other Idielogists I think for myself. All what magnetic generators are, are potential energy to kinetic energy and back transformers...with drag, guess what. Spain?? Im from Portugal :P Strike 3 :D Edited July 19, 2010 by Pilotasso .
GGTharos Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 According to your link, TB is a complete fake. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pilotasso Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) sorry, i mixed it up. Strike 4 You know what Magnetic generator inventors are? They are people trying to get some attention and lure gullible people into their flock of fans. There are THOUSANDS of perceptual motion generator patents, NONE of them work. Its like one of those debates about life in space, there's 1 or 2 people making sense then there's 50 other speaking about grey abductings and US government Saucers, conspiracies, spirits etc. The tin foil headed idiots ruin others intellectual rights. I had heated debates with people arguing about a piece of metal spinning in vacuum coupled with magnets and stuff like that would generate energy forever completely forgetting the counter electro-force driving it to a halt, yet they say something in the lines like you said "there's much unknowns that can be proved wrong"...doh, we are talking about facts... would you know the wheel doesn't turn after all? Edited July 19, 2010 by Pilotasso .
Pilotasso Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 AS...this is not fundamentalism or DOGMA, you know the exact opposite of this also impairs progress. ;) .
winz Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 You are the one here making religion out of science... We are all full of #### and you are the only visionary and saviour here. Guess your ego is also powered from ZPE. I want reasearch papers, not some wild articles you googled out of haste or wiki links about people who are afraid of publication of their of phd thesis. 1 The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
GGTharos Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma You see, lots of people are willing to look at alternative energy sources. The problem is that TB's stuff has failed to hold up to scrutiny by persons more qualified than myself. By definition, you are the one suffering from dogma ... ie. the 'fact' that you are the one true skeptic, forward thinker, saviour, and others are full of #### because they disputed your conjecture (that being that they do not have an open mind, a conclusion borne out of disputing TB's work) is effectively the definition of dogma. Your dogma. Science is a collection of facts and rules collected and agreed upon by a process that requires review and dispute and being subject to disproval. It is the burden of the one who thus wishes to disprove this collection to prove that any one part of the current scientific knowledge is incorrect. So far all you've done is cuss at people. What does that prove? I bet you WANT much in your life, but do you have the guts to look for it? I refuse to collect all material and post...pfff ....go friggn find yourself cuz only THEN you all will "work" for yourself in your conventional knowledge. You are all forgetting one thing, I AM THE ONE who is ueber-critical in such things YET i question and look for more, because just living with to(us) me "sold" truth (which MAYBE, is not complete) THAT IS DOGMA. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
winz Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Well. I tried. I looked in the IEEE library (the only one I got access at the monent), and guess what, nothing. I AM THE ONE who is ueber-critical in such things YET i question and look for more, because just living with to(us) me "sold" truth (which MAYBE, is not complete) THAT IS DOGMA. Ok, let me ask one thing. Let for a moment forget about thermodynamics laws. According to the links posted here, these technologies aren't really new, they are here for years, if not decade atleast. There are technologies that are younger and they are quite widespread, even if their spread costs are pretty high (i.e. third generation mobile networks, ftth). And according to the links, it's construction isn't really expensive, you don't need a top-notch factory with sterille enviroment (like for i.e. microelectronics). The patents are registered to their rightfull owners and not to the evil oil companies that people accuse of buying such patents and puting them in the shelfs. And the market is there, I mean, a free eternal power source has certainly a wider market than a 3G mobile network. So, low initial investment, no aditional reaserch required, and a super wide market, if you ask me, from a business standpoint, it's a goldmine. And no sane man would refuse such opportinuty. So tell my, why I cannot buy such devices? I mean really buy, from serious resellers, with warranty, manual and such. Give me one logical explanantion other than 'it doesn't work' Edited July 19, 2010 by winz The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
sobek Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 bring me beer from the supermarket ........me lolz and leaves this nonsense discussion. Oh boy, why didn't you explain that 20 pages earlier. :megalol: Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
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