why there is no air to air missiles?

[GGTharos]

Wouldn't you use the Apaches to escort a helo that is going to the front lines though?

 

 

'Hot LZ' yeah, sounds like something you'd definitely want to use A2G munitions for. :D

[yuhan11020]

I have someting for all of you!!!!

 

Is't interesting?

sss.bmp

[26-J39]

and is this.. :D

[159th_Viper]

I'll settle for this then...........

 

 

Time to Crack Open this Can of Whip-A$$ - Bring it On!

 

:D

[GGTharos]

No, it isn't interesting. The Ka-50 doesn't carry AAMs. Get over it. ;)

[Boberro]

Nation demands Igla or R-73 to easier bring down air drones called Hogs :D

Edited October 11, 2009 by Boberro

[26-J39]

Some info I found here, looks like it was the KA-50N prototype that had A2A capability where as the production KA-50 could only use cannon and vikhrs to engage air targets.

Maybe this is where some of the confusion lies. Might be wrong. :)

Edited October 11, 2009 by 26-J39

[EvilBivol-1]

Will this debate never end? :)

 

At least I haven't seen the RWR question come up recently.

 

Woops!

[Mugatu]

I'm sure I've seen footage of it carrying R77s!! :)

[GGTharos]

The confusion lies in the fact that Kamov markets A2A capability as a possible upgrade, basically :)

 

Some info I found here, looks like it was the KA-50N prototype that had A2A capability where as the production KA-50 could only use cannon and vikhrs to engage air targets.

Maybe this is where some of the confusion lies. Might be wrong. :)

[BlackFallout]

Can the normal KA50 even carry A2A?

 

If I see an enemy fast mover I'm hiding ASAP.:thumbup:

[GGTharos]

The production Ka-50 has never been caught wearing A2A lingerie ;)

[159th_Viper]

Nation demands Igla or R-73 to easier bring down air drones called Hogs :D

 

 

 

:megalol:

 

 

 

 

 

At least I haven't seen the RWR question come up recently.

 

 

 

On that note and without delving too deeply into the Abyss that is the NDA, does the A-10C as modelled for the DCS series have a LWR?

 

Gonna be a helluva lot of Hog-Jockeys moaning like fc*k when they start dropping like flies due to Laser-Guided Munitions if not........:music_whistling:

(But that's a conversation for another topic, GG :) )

[EtherealN]

Is't interesting?

 

Note how the exact manual entry that you highlighted says "no function". This is a common thing: the weapon control module that was installed in the Ka-50 is prepped to use a third wingstub station, but the Ka-50 doesn't have them. Easier to just install the stuff instead of customizing every single unit.

 

And, btw, the US does that too. I think it was chaff dispensers or something like that that were present in the cockpit but, in the real pilot's manual, marked as "no function". Someone with better knowledge of the bird would have to chime in on that since I'm going by memory of an old thread, but fact of the matter is that just because there's a toggle in the cockpit doesn't mean that there's any wires connected to it.

 

AAMs for the Ka-50 isn't the only topic where this good old "debate" has been going on. A previous one was that ED should have equipped the simulated Ka-50 with RWR since it's not realistic to face radar-SAM in an aircraft without and RWR. "It just wouldn't be sent in there. It would be suicide." And since there were such occassions in DCS:BS it obviously was more "realistic" to give the bird an RWR.

 

Then people first indicated that it really-really doesn't have one, and that in the (then) only a few months old war in Georgia the russians had no issue with deploying helicopters without RWR in areas where they could face Georgian radar-guided SAMs. They didn't "drop like flies" in spite of that.

 

So please... Stop it. :P

 

I'm sure I've seen footage of it carrying R77s!!

 

That would be so much win in a future multiplayer server that includes both jets and real aircraft. Would let me kill GG without screenshotting. :D

 

But that said, I have seen photos of the Ka-50 wearing AAMs. However... It was dummy AAMs at airshows and parades and such. Which is enough to trick people into having these protracted debates. XD

 

(It used to fool me, too...)

[Griffin]

Someone with better knowledge of the bird would have to chime in on that since I'm going by memory of an old thread, but fact of the matter is that just because there's a toggle in the cockpit doesn't mean that there's any wires connected to it.

 

Yeah that's very common. For example F-18 and NH90 have those too.

[GGTharos]

On that note and without delving too deeply into the Abyss that is the NDA, does the A-10C as modelled for the DCS series have a LWR?

 

I suggest a little research on the web - you might find a surprise ;)

[159th_Viper]

I suggest a little research on the web - you might find a surprise ;)

 

Bluejay?

[Wags]

http://warthognews.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-warning-system-has-been-identified.html

[159th_Viper]

Just got a whole lot more Interesting and the wait that much more difficult to bear......:)

[topol-m]

http://warthognews.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-warning-system-has-been-identified.html

 

Can we expect to see this feature in DCS: A10C?

[Speed_2]

A jet really doesn't need a laser warning receiver. It would be incredibly hard to hit a warthog with a Vikhr, and very few SAMs are laser guided- I only know of one, in fact.

 

Besides, if I were a Warthog pilot, I'd forego using my cannon in high threat areas and just bomb from an altitude where only radar guided SAMs could get me. I don't care how much armor you have, A-10 is still probably going to take only one SAM hit shoot down, and that sucker moves slow.

[159th_Viper]

....and very few SAMs are laser guided- I only know of one, in fact.....

 

Not so much the Guidance that's the issue - It's the Rangefinder :)

 

A MLWS incorporating a LWS is invaluable I would have thought in this day and age. Certainly adds a new dimension to the already formidable Sensor Array of the Hog.

[AlphaOneSix]

AH-1Z is cleared for the AIM-9 Sidewinder, AH-64D is cleared for at least the AIM-92 Stinger.

 

http://www.enemyforces.net/helicopters/ah64_apache.htm

 

I know, I know, I'm resurrecting the age old argument that never dies. But I finally got back to work today where I could pose some questions to a few of my coworkers.

 

As most of you know, I have been very clear in announcing that no U.S. Army AH-64A can carry or employ air-to-air missiles of any kind.

 

I now know that no U.S. Army AH-64D was purchased with the capaability to employ air-to-air missiles.

 

As far as air-to-air missiles are concerned, the only difference between the A and D models is that the D model moved the anti-collision lights off of the wingtip to allow mounting of stores. No wiring or other hardware was ever installed, however.

 

So there you have it, no U.S. Army production AH-64A or AH-64D is capable of employing air-to-air missiles.

[EtherealN]

Can we expect to see this feature in DCS: A10C?

 

Study the tail and nose section on the screenshots that were released to SimHQ: http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_425f.html

[sobek]

Study the tail and nose section on the screenshots that were released to SimHQ: http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_425f.html

 

I guess that means no. :cry: