Wings Of Prey

[diveplane]

I find it very hard to believe that the complete White-out, as currently experienced in Cockpit, is realistic. It needs to be tweaked. The HDR values are crazy.

 

Nate

 

i dont get complete white out on my screen, sounds like a graphic issue on your end?

[Total]

I use an nvidia GTX260 Core 216 and do not experience that. What driver version are you running?

[Axion]

With the in game brightness setting turned to a minimum I get the following. Is everyone else experiencing similar results?

 

[Dave317]

Yep same results sometimes worse. I'm running latest Nvidia drivers too.

[Nate--IRL--]

Thats similar to what I'm getting too, I have an ATI 4890 so it isn't vendor specific it seems.

 

Nate

[Boulund]

I just tried the demo and I also get get white-outs whenever the sun is anywhere on screen and I'm in the cockpit.

It's really wierd... I've got a Geforce 8800GTS (G80) with the latest drivers

[JimMack]

see ya in the virtual wop skies jim lol

 

Ok - all controls working OK. Checking the terrain which is excellent low down, but is fudged above 5,000 ft.

Checked Spitfire Mk II performance against the Pilots Notes published in June 1940 (My Dad's copy). There apppears to be no correlation between reality and the simulation.

The key figures on the top left of the screen are in metric, but instruments are correctly in Imperial. Is there an option to change metric to Imperial?

Edited December 29, 2009 by JimMack

[Axion]

Under the Main Menu/Profile/Options/General you can change the units of measurement for speed, altitude and distance.

[sobek]

I just tried the demo

 

Where can one get the demo? Can't seem to find it. :helpsmilie:

[Axion]

You could try this page but I'm not sure how an ISO torrent works. See the bottom of the first post.

 

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2717.0.html

 

@ Jim - When you said it was fudged above 5000ft, did you mean the draw distance?

Edited December 29, 2009 by Axion

[JimMack]

Under the Main Menu/Profile/Options/General you can change the units of measurement for speed, altitude and distance.

 

Very many thanks will test tomorrow.

Here is the real data from the Pilots Notes for a Spitfire MkIIa and MkIIb as published in June 1940, just before the Battle of Britain:

 

Engine Limitation RPM Boost

Max take-off to 1000 ft 3,000 12.5

Max Climbing limit 2.850 9

Combat 5 min limit 3,000 12

 

Diving - Max rpm 3,600 (3,000 rpm only exceed for 30 secs with throttle not less than one third open)

Combat: 3,000 rpm may be used above 20,000 ft for periods not exceeding 30 mins.

 

Max Speed (mph IAS)

Diving 450 - will become tail heavy and should be trimmed into the dive

Undercarriage down 160

Flaps down 140

 

Take-off Do not start to climb before 140 mph

Climbing Up to 15,000 ft max rate is obtained at 160 mph ASIR

However

Ground to 13,000 ft 185 ASIR

etc etc

30,000 ft to 35,000 ft 110 mph ASIR (comment, I can not get the Spit to fly above 15,000)

 

Stalling

Will stall with one wing down. Indication is a violent shudder and a clattering noise. Standard recovery procedure.

Flaps and undercarriage up 73 mph ASIR

Flaps and undercarriage down 64 mph ASIR

 

Spinning

Not below 10,000 ft, recovery before 5,000 ft. Speed of 150 mph before easing out of dive.

 

Aerobatics

looping - 300 mph, but 220 if pilot is very experienced

Rolling - 180-300 mph - start with nose 30 degrees above horizon

HALF ROLL OFF LOOP - 350-400 MPH

Upward Roll - 350-400 mph

Flick Rolls - NOT ALLOWED

 

Landing

Approach at 140 mph and then go through standard checklist of Undercarriage, Mixture Control RICH, Pitch (prop control fully forward), Flaps.

Final approach - Engine = 85 mph, Glide = 90 mph

 

Hope this is of interest - you can test against IL2, Microsoft etc.

 

At TFC we only have a MkV and a MkXIV Spitfire so can not warrant that the Pilots Notes are correct for a MKII!

However shaking before the stall seems to happen for all MKs!

 

Cheers

 

Jim

[JimMack]

You could try this page but I'm not sure how an ISO torrent works. See the bottom of the first post.

 

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2717.0.html

 

@ Jim - When you said it was fudged above 5000ft, did you mean the draw distance?

 

Yes, they use haze effect to hide that details are not clear. I am sure you have flown in airliners at 30,000 ft. Even at this height, the ground is very clear. It is not a criticism for what is an air-2-air sim, it is a difficult problem to solve with a PC and the current fidelity of monitors. As you know, we have a draw distance of about 20Km, which is adequate for realistic CAS operations.

[diveplane]

Ok - all controls working OK. Checking the terrain which is excellent low down, but is fudged above 5,000 ft.

Checked Spitfire Mk II performance against the Pilots Notes published in June 1940 (My Dad's copy). There apppears to be no correlation between reality and the simulation.

The key figures on the top left of the screen are in metric, but instruments are correctly in Imperial. Is there an option to change metric to Imperial?

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wow your old man fly spits in ww2?

Edited December 30, 2009 by diveplane

[diveplane]

intresting video here on ww2 pilot aces.

 

claim that the spit was a very easy aircraft to fly compared to the bf109.

 

many new battle britain pilots only had 9 hours spit hurri training prior to going into combat.

 

many killed in there first sortie..

 

pt 1

 

spitfires cockpit design

[LTZach]

Hey guys, new launch trailer...And apparently It's coming to Steam for you Valve users.

[Total]

The spit's wider wings (spoons as one ex-pilot I met called them) made it a very stable aircraft.

[diveplane]

spit ace of ww2 taking the controls flying again. wow

[Total]

Nice vid and nice fights earlier :)

[A.S]

spit ace of ww2 taking the controls flying again. wow

 

 

Thx for that nice post.

[JimMack]

[quote=diveplane;808292

 

wow your old man fly spits in ww2?

 

No, he was a Royal Navy Marine Engineer in WW2, then transferred to the Fleet Air Arm in 1946 and became a test pilot. I see from his log book that the next aircraft he flew was a Seafire 47, so at a guess during his training at the Empire Test Pilot's course he was being given experience in different types.

[diveplane]

No, he was a Royal Navy Marine Engineer in WW2, then transferred to the Fleet Air Arm in 1946 and became a test pilot. I see from his log book that the next aircraft he flew was a Seafire 47, so at a guess during his training at the Empire Test Pilot's course he was being given experience in different types.

 

thx for sharing your family war history jim.

 

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[Airway]

Where can one get the demo? Can't seem to find it. :helpsmilie:

 

Here.

It's just out, half an hour ago. :)

 

http://yuplay.com/story.php?title=Wings-Prey--demo-version

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Thanks for the link, Airway.

 

Surprisingly, no one is seeding on the torrent. How the publisher expect us to download it if there's nowhere to download from...?

 

Is there any alternative one?

[connos]

Thanks for the link, Airway.

 

Surprisingly, no one is seeding on the torrent. How the publisher expect us to download it if there's nowhere to download from...?

 

Is there any alternative one?

 

I just finish downloading the torrent. It was quite fast.

[BTTW-DratsaB]

Seems that for some reason some torrent clients wont download it. I have been trying to download it for about 4 days now and it always says the same thing in Vuze, "Tracker for 'wings.of.prey.iso' returned warning 'Torrent not registered'". :( The proper demo is supposed to be out soon so I guess I'll just wait for that.