bfeld Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 First: Congratulations ED! :) I have a question concerning the flight model and the physics simulation in general: I started with DCS: Black Shark. Now reading the online feature documentation of Flaming Cliffs, it seems as if the Su-25T has a better flight model than the other planes. Also, the simulation of engine/turbine and hydraulics for the Su-25T systems seem to be a (similar/basic) version of that used in Black Shark. Is this general assumption (for FC2.0 still) true, is the Su25T the most realistic plane, concerning Flight model and system physics? Cheers, bfeld
Bucic Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Is this general assumption (for FC2.0 still) true, is the Su25T the most realistic plane, concerning Flight model and system physics? Cheers, bfeld Both Su-25 and Su-25T are modeled to the same level of fidelity AFAIK. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
edward1976 Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 yahoooo..................... English Version Please... No. Only russian. It is impossible to give to damned capitalists our weapon. For Stalin! :megalol: :lol: :D 1
joey45 Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Congrats!!! The English version shouldn't be to far behind then....? I should have my new card by then........ The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 AS far as I can see, you must BUY Lomac, you then download, not purchase, FC1 (you can do this right now on the lock on site). Then Purchase FC2. and install over a combined Lomac+FC1 install. But that is only my interpretation, I could be wrong. ED should make this clear as to whether FC1 needs to be purchased or not Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Kuky Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 I think its been said a few times already you do not need FC1... you just install original Lock On then FC2 PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Thats what i thought until I read this in the FAQ I would be happy to be wrong. Q: What would be the Flaming Cliffs upgrade paths be? A: Either Lock On + Flaming Cliffs unofficial add-on (you would not have to activate) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 upgrade or Lock On + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 DVD. http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1849&scr=default Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Bucic Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 AS far as I can see, you must BUY Lomac, you then download, not purchase, FC1 (you can do this right now on the lock on site). Then Purchase FC2. and install over a combined Lomac+FC1 install. But that is only my interpretation, I could be wrong. ED should make this clear as to whether FC1 needs to be purchased or not Nate I think its been said a few times already you do not need FC1... you just install original Lock On then FC2 You guys kill me :megalol: F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Skkuda Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Bucic wrote You guys kill mewaiting the release is killing me........... [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic56197_1.gif[/sIGPIC] AMD Phenom IIx4 955 Black Edition@3.2Ghz Asus M4A785TD-M EVO 6Ghz DDR3 1033 NVidia Geforce GTX 570 hd1280 Mb GDDR5
bird-1 Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Great news ,I'll wait for the international version ! NFI_651/bird-1 NFI Chinese Web Intel i7 6800k OC 3.7GHz | MSI X99 | Nvidia GTC1060 6G | DDR4 2400MHz 32GB | Sumsung SSD 256GB | Apple 27’LCD | TM Hotas Warthog for A10C & Cougar for FC3 | Saitek Flight Rudder Pedals [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic63864_3.gif[/sIGPIC]
Jg2001_Rasputin Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Indeed it´s very confusing right now. I just bought FC1 because of FC2 and installed it. Didn´t know you can download it without buying it.So I could have saved 14,99$? right?
Xjikz Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) Download the setup files of FC 1, install it but don't launch the game so you don't need to buy the game to make the useless activation. http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?scr=product&ProductId=4&end_pos=135 Then you install FC2.0 and activate FC2.0 But I agree that unless ED is a bit "more precise" it's still very confusing... Edited March 26, 2010 by Xjikz Proud to be a [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] :joystick::pilotfly::book:
Gary Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Gents. I thought my previous post and subsequent reply made it all clear - to me at least! Now more confused than ever!!!! I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
Gary Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Sorry guys - forget the post above..... Finally I now understand....downloading the FC1 set up file as I type this!!! As long as I dont launch the updated Lock-on programme after the update from FC1 but just patch again with FC2 it should all work Im guessing... Sorry to be a pain in the arse!!! I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
159th_Viper Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 LockOn 1.0 + Lockon 2.0 = :thumbup: LockOn 1.0 + LockOn 1.1 + LockOn 2.0 = Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Bucic Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Indeed it´s very confusing right now. I just bought FC1 because of FC2 and installed it. Didn´t know you can download it without buying it.So I could have saved 14,99$? right? If this is true that's hillarious! :D F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Ulrich Posted March 26, 2010 Author Posted March 26, 2010 Dear all, FC2 may be installed on Lockon (original) or FC 1.1.
Xjikz Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Loud and clear ! Thanks ! :thumbup: Proud to be a [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] :joystick::pilotfly::book:
Jg2001_Rasputin Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Dear all, FC2 may be installed on Lockon (original) or FC 1.1. Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pouka Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Dear all, FC2 may be installed on Lockon (original) or FC 1.1. Thanks for the precision. However, the FAQ is confusing...:music_whistling: Q: What would be the Flaming Cliffs upgrade paths be? A: Either Lock On + Flaming Cliffs unofficial add-on (you would not have to activate) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 upgrade or Lock On + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 DVD. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Robin_Hood Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Dear all, FC2 may be installed on Lockon (original) or FC 1.1. Great to hear that. It definitely needed clarification (I hope FAQs will be updated as they generate ambiguity) :) Any news from the hopefully final FC2 English testing ? :music_whistling: 2nd French Fighter Squadron
Bucic Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Dear all, FC2 may be installed on Lockon (original) or FC 1.1. So the FAQ entry Q: What would be the Flaming Cliffs upgrade paths be? A: Either Lock On + Flaming Cliffs unofficial add-on (you would not have to activate) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 upgrade or Lock On + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 DVD. should be changed to Q: What would the Flaming Cliffs upgrade paths be? A: Either Lock On (original) + Flaming Cliffs unofficial add-on (you would not have to activate) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 download version or Lock On (original) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 download version or Lock On (original) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 DVD boxed version There's no need to buy Flaming Cliffs 1 to play Flaming Cliffs 2.0 F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Distiler Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) Or just delete the last "DVD" bit off the sentence. I think that was the only little thing that might confuse somebody. Q: What would be the Flaming Cliffs upgrade paths be? A: Either Lock On + Flaming Cliffs unofficial add-on (you would not have to activate) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 upgrade or Lock On + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 DVD. to Q: What would be the Flaming Cliffs upgrade paths be? A: Either Lock On + Flaming Cliffs unofficial add-on (you would not have to activate) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 upgrade or Lock On + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 upgrade. Edited March 26, 2010 by Distiler AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2
Napa Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 any news from eng version again? :P Waiting patiently... not :book: Intel i7 12700k / Corsair H150i Elite Capellix / Asus TUF Z690 Wifi D4 / Corsair Dominator 32GB 3200Mhz / Corsair HW1000W / 1x Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 500Gb + 1 Corsair MP600 1TB / ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 / Fractal Design Meshify 2 / HOTAS Warthog / TFRP Rudder / TrackIR 5 / Dell U2515h 25" Monitor 1440p
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