Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[GGTharos]

Um, no, as a matter of fact they do not ...

 

Well thats a majority of it. The F-16 and F-15E have about the same strike capabilities. How else are we supposed to decide. I wanted an english strike fighter not russian. That about narrows it down.

[*Rage*]

Um, no, as a matter of fact they do not ...

 

Yeah the F16 is much more capable:P

[GGTharos]

Yes, nothing quite ruins your lawn like a lawndart ... :D

[M31]

You could say the same thing about almost every aircraft besides the F-16.

 

 

 

Dude, the page says.. you can still have fun

 

 

 

Good god.

 

Nought wrong with having fun, even in elite serious Flight Sims :)

[M31]

Your basing your conclusion on using AI manning the second seat while you toggle from "front to back". That in itself isn't realistic.

 

There is indeed the potential of solo play with two seaters, unfortunately very limited...and to the pilot only. You don't need a RIO/gunner/etc in order to fly an aircraft but you obviously DO need them to conduct combat ops.

 

I haven't flown FSX, but from what I've read it's possible to sit in the same cockpit with the pilot of an aircraft. How good/bad they've done it, I honestly don't know.

 

Is it possible? Sure it is. Is it feasible? That remains to be seen.

 

Anyway, the concept is wonderful for those already in squadrons since you can simply swap roles with your fellow pilot. Unfortunately it completely eliminates any/all casual flyers who sim solo.

 

AI RIO/gunner option? Possible. I suspect it would really be no different than the current wingman as far as communication.

 

I here what you are saying.

 

Without dumbing down the high fidelity, we are probably not going to see two seaters in this series for AI to do the second job while the Human swaps back and forth... or they could implement two seaters and limit the sales by the requirement of only letting the sold aircraft be manned by two humans in co-op, as much as this idea is appealing not many would do it I reckon?

 

What is the official ED stance on this, have they commented? maybe they can make the AI sophisticated enough to be believable for dual seaters for one Human pilot to fly. Most of the time we have to make do with AI opponents and even wingmen and we virtually die or fly by that and they are every bit as important.

 

As mentioned, lots of sims have done it in the past, SE III, Fleet Defender and more.

 

I digress, anyway ...

 

I guess this thread is stickied for a reason though, and that's because ED want feedback good or bad and even in-between.

 

Going by results so far, it looks like we will have an F-16 after the A-10 ... not my first choice but I'd still buy it.

 

But Boy oh Boy, if it turned out to be a Tornado GR-4 :joystick:

 

Cheers.

[joey45]

.... I wanted an english strike fighter not russian. That about narrows it down.

 

There's no market for non US/RUS aircraft.

[kingneptune117]

Um, no, as a matter of fact they do not ...

 

explain. The only advantage a strike eagle has is bigger payload and better night ops. It also flys better at low altitudes as it was designed that way. It has the highest time to climb record.

 

other than that, for air to ground stuff that is, there isnt that much of a difference

[Booger]

I here what you are saying.

 

Without dumbing down the high fidelity, we are probably not going to see two seaters in this series for AI to do the second job while the Human swaps back and forth... or they could implement two seaters and limit the sales by the requirement of only letting the sold aircraft be manned by two humans in co-op, as much as this idea is appealing not many would do it I reckon?

 

What is the official ED stance on this, have they commented? maybe they can make the AI sophisticated enough to be believable for dual seaters for one Human pilot to fly. Most of the time we have to make do with AI opponents and even wingmen and we virtually die or fly by that and they are every bit as important.

 

As mentioned, lots of sims have done it in the past, SE III, Fleet Defender and more.

 

I digress, anyway ...

 

I guess this thread is stickied for a reason though, and that's because ED want feedback good or bad and even in-between.

 

Going by results so far, it looks like we will have an F-16 after the A-10 ... not my first choice but I'd still buy it.

 

But Boy oh Boy, if it turned out to be a Tornado GR-4 :joystick:

 

Cheers.

 

Agreed. I really don't anticipate any 2-seat options anytime soon. There are far more profitable single-seat options available before ED "needs" to jump that hurdle.

 

To be honest, I'm rather shocked at how many are hoping for the F/A-18.

 

I still think it would be wise to spread the load among the different countries. Fighter pilots have FC2 to entertain them (with DCS "crossover") making the British Harrier a solid option.

 

There's no market for non US/RUS aircraft.

 

I disagree. Or wait, a US Harrier would be ok but a British one wouldn't?

 

Further, people would go nuts over the Eurofighter...but it's obvious you won't see any unclassified data for it for some time, making the request for one unreasonable.

Edited April 3, 2010 by Booger

[GGTharos]

This 'only difference' makes -all- the difference.

 

explain. The only advantage a strike eagle has is bigger payload and better night ops. It also flys better at low altitudes as it was designed that way. It has the highest time to climb record.

 

other than that, for air to ground stuff that is, there isnt that much of a difference

[Mugenjin]

Imho the most important question is not which aircraft is going to come after DCS:A-10, but whether the next module will have a fully working ground radar, which would be awesome.

Since I kinda doubt it, it sadly rules out a lot of candidates. But I'll be glad to be proven wrong =D

[topdog]

The most important question is which folder on Wags' desktop is the one you want to see most:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=867075&postcount=551

 

My vote's for DCS:pr0n - should make for some interesting producer's notes videos at least !

[ΗΟLΙDΛΥ]

This is my simulator WIP, and another reason I would like DCS to make DCS:F-16!!! The Falcon all day any day people.

 

[joey45]

NA!!

 

DCS : Groundcrew.. with ATC

[M31]

DCS Air Hostess please.

 

[*Rage*]

surely there are hotter air hostesses you could have picked;)

[Booger]

NA!!

 

DCS : Groundcrew.. with ATC

 

 

[Luke.S]

Agreed. I really don't anticipate any 2-seat options anytime soon. There are far more profitable single-seat options available before ED "needs" to jump that hurdle.

 

To be honest, I'm rather shocked at how many are hoping for the F/A-18.

 

I still think it would be wise to spread the load among the different countries. Fighter pilots have FC2 to entertain them (with DCS "crossover") making the British Harrier a solid option.

 

 

 

I disagree. Or wait, a US Harrier would be ok but a British one wouldn't?

 

Further, people would go nuts over the Eurofighter...but it's obvious you won't see any unclassified data for it for some time, making the request for one unreasonable.

 

well actually it is simple enough to pop them an email. I asked about thrust vectoring a while back and got a reply from the head of customer services. The typhoon is built by a private company so they should be able to be convinced it is for a good reason.

[amalahama]

surely there are hotter air hostesses you could have picked;)

 

She's fine for me - Hell, ANY ELSE would be fine for me right now :D

 

Spring coming, temperature raising...

 

Regards!!

[joey45]

.......

I disagree. Or wait, a US Harrier would be ok but a British one wouldn't

 

No, cos other countries have the Harrier, same with the F16/15.

[Kurtz]

Start work on the ground forces. Not nessessarily FPS foot soldiers like armour, but make the vehicles player controllable at a simulator level of FC2[not the detail of BS]. Imagine having human players controlling the tank columns, flanked by KA50, with fast air top cover.

 

One active human tank commander with the ability to direct AI in his column, would give us reactive AI at a higher level than trying to code in an AI with brains.

 

Fix up the AI

 

Vote 1 next module = T80/Abrams

[M31]

surely there are hotter air hostesses you could have picked;)

 

Are you blind :) Look at those legs!

 

She can be my Wingman, anytime :P

[M31]

 

I still think it would be wise to spread the load among the different countries. Fighter pilots have FC2 to entertain them (with DCS "crossover") making the British Harrier a solid option.

 

I disagree. Or wait, a US Harrier would be ok but a British one wouldn't?

 

Further, people would go nuts over the Eurofighter...but it's obvious you won't see any unclassified data for it for some time, making the request for one unreasonable.

 

I'd love to see a DCS Harrier, Brit or American varients, it would take some flight modelling to do it right though, come to think of it, its never been done even half decently in any Flight Sim to date ... But I love the Harriers, my late Dad worked with the early GR1's with the RAF in the early 70's at our posting to RAF Wildenrath in Germany and at some weekends I was allowed on the base with my Dad to see the maintenance work on them.

 

The Eurofighter Typhoon is a good call too, multi national and we are a multi national user base, its a highly capable multi role aircraft and has roots in Flight Sim history with one of the best simulations ever with DID's EF2000, everyone loved it. You'd be surprised how accurate the flight systems used in DID's EF2000 were, even at the time I can remember when it was previewed to the real aircraft designers they were blown away with it ... so much so that the MOD asked DID to work with them on there own Military training software.

 

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of DCS Typhoon ... cant see it happening though :(

Edited April 5, 2010 by M31

[pilotbaxter007]

Su-34

[jetace]

lovely planes

 

I wish to see in near future in FC2 next flyble aircrafts :

 

MIG 31

F-18

SU-30, 35 ,37 :pilotfly:

 

..i wish so much eh ? :megalol:

[Pouka]

I would love to see a package of two fighters like:

- Mig 29 K versus F18C

- Mig 29 SMT versus F16 Block 60

 

:wub: