Gimpymoo Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) Much better than D2D IMO. I see no reason why it cant be. Mods can be used EXACTLY like any other version, well, Ive been using ARMA 2, Just Cause 2 and Battlefield 2 and others with numerous mods and what not with no issue. Also, Starforce can also be used alongside if needed. Edited April 13, 2010 by Gimpymoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I see no reason why it cant be. I do see possible reasons: What percentage does Steam take? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpymoo Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 That we will never know for sure owing to various NDA's. HOWEVER, various respectable devs (Tripwire among one of them) have said that Valve took the lowest cut out of all other DD providers. It is besides the point though, even IF it was a large percentage (Again, that we do not know) you simply increase the price to compensate). At least people have the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freehand Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I like it just the way it is i do not want steam installed on my system. Price is irrelevant for me for such an awesome piece of software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boberro Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 LOL next steam thread. There are a lot of already. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterZER0 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Looks like DCS: Black Shark is now on Steam! Hopefully this means DCS: A-10C will also be coming out on Steam... :pilotfly: Core i5 750 @ 3.4Ghz | 8gb G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 | ASUS P7P55D | ATI Radeon HD6970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Yep. http://store.steampowered.com/news/4052/ Intel 5820k | Asus X-99A | Crucial 16GB | Powercolor Devil RX580 8GB | Win 10 x64 | Oculus Rift | https://gallery.ksotov.co.uk Patiently waiting for: DCS: Panavia Tornado, DCS: SA-2 Guideline, DCS: SA-3 Goa, DCS: S-300 Grumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connos Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Looks like DCS: Black Shark is now on Steam! Hopefully this means DCS: A-10C will also be coming out on Steam... :pilotfly: I really hope that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ASUS M4A79 Deluxe, AMD Phenom II X4 940@3.5GHz, ATI 6870 1GB, Windows 7 64bit, Kingstone HyperX 4GB, 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB, Asus Xonar DX Sound Card, Saitek X52 PRO, TrackIR 44: Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dok_rp Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 My GOD, those screenshots do Black Shark no justice!!! That sim is much prettier than those poorly chosen SS's designating it so. And also, where are those mouth-watering Glowing Ammram videos to really tilt the table on ED's favor? They are a must-show!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdem Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) So after 2 years of lost sales, lots of popularity and "We don't do Steam, we're just hardcore." comments, ED finds about Steam! Congrats. At least A-10 will do much better. Edit: It also doesn't have Starforce protection, just regular unintrusive Steam DRM according to the Steam sale page. Things just got better for me. Edited July 10, 2010 by Erdem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Add a video to the preview screens IMO. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dok_rp Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 So after 2 years of lost sales, lots of popularity and "We don't do Steam, we're just hardcore." comments, ED finds about Steam! Congrats. At least A-10 will do much better. Edit: It also doesn't have Starforce protection, just regular unintrusive Steam DRM according to the Steam sale page. Things just got better for me. Starforce on post-FC1 products are also as intrusive as it can be while still pertaining to ED's DRM philosophy. No drivers are installed and you don't even lose activations if you remember to deactivate the product. As far as intrusiveness is concerned, the horrendous ad-riddled steam and the ad popups are much more intrusive IMO, when compared to the new non-installing online-activating starforce drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrowhead Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Great! It would be nice to have FC2 on Steam too. Windows 10 64bit Intel i7 9700K Corsair H80i v2 Hydro Cooler EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra 32GB RAM ASUS Z390 Maximus XI Samsung 970 EVO 1tb NVMe Solid State Drive EVGA Gold 1000w HTC Vive Pro VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonefilipe Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 nice, really hope A-10 will be released on steam too. just too bad BS has a ridiculous price tag, $40 for a download version... the CD is now at least 20% cheaper than that... and come on, it's not exactly a new release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 A high fidelity simulation is not worth $40 to you? Steel Beasts retails for over $100. nice, really hope A-10 will be released on steam too. just too bad BS has a ridiculous price tag, $40 for a download version... the CD is now at least 20% cheaper than that... and come on, it's not exactly a new release... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qrazi Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 True, but as ridiculous as it sounds, € 10,- matters to some people (like when you have a wife who shops a lot and leaves you almost no pocket money... darnit that &*... uh wait, I'm going off-topic here.... :D ) MSI 870A-G54, AMD Phenom II X2 555 @Phenom II X4 B55 BE, 3.2 GHz quad-core, Asus EAH4870 DK/HTDI/512MD5, OCZ Gold Edition DDR3 1333MHz 4GB Kit Low-Voltage. Budget = Cheap = Good :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullerGer Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Is DCS still moddable, when i buy it from Stream? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShalashakaDS Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) I would think so, you still have all the same folders, just installed in another place, at least thats how it works with all other steam games. Granted i had a lot of trouble to find my arma II folders the first time around. Stupid me. Edited July 10, 2010 by ShalashakaDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Is anyone outside of the UK not able to purchase Black Shark on steam? Intel 5820k | Asus X-99A | Crucial 16GB | Powercolor Devil RX580 8GB | Win 10 x64 | Oculus Rift | https://gallery.ksotov.co.uk Patiently waiting for: DCS: Panavia Tornado, DCS: SA-2 Guideline, DCS: SA-3 Goa, DCS: S-300 Grumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element1108 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 What is it exactly about STEAM you guys are so fond of? And please don't use "no limited activations" as one reason, because that's probably the most grossly misunderstood part of the D2D from ED. I'm curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonefilipe Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 A high fidelity simulation is not worth $40 to you? Steel Beasts retails for over $100. Of corse it is, just saying... I've always thought that download versions should be at least 50% cheaper than the physical counterparts, because of all the shipping/distribution/manufacture/taxes/etc costs. But most of the time it's the same price tag or even more expensive. I guess Valve is really taking a big piece of the cake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element1108 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) Of corse it is, just saying... I've always thought that download versions should be at least 50% cheaper than the physical counterparts, because of all the shipping/distribution/manufacture/taxes/etc costs. But most of the time it's the same price tag or even more expensive. I guess Valve is really taking a big piece of the cake... Trust me man, the Intellectual property of a product plus plus the salaries of the highly specialized engineers, programmers etc that work on the project is about 95% of what you pay. That would be highly unfair to the developer who puts in years of work only to have %50 of their revenue lost to a distribution company. Also note, most big game developers run on the feature film philosophy now a days. The financial success of a game is determined in how well the game sells in the first X amount of days after release. After those few precious days sales will drop and you can say the climax of the revenue stream has faded. I LOATH this philosophy, because I hate the whole "PRE ORDER THIS NOW" bull S*IT. We're living in the "blockbuster" age of gaming. Simulation series for the most part don't really fall into that catagory as MUCH (I don't know how the sales list looks for Black Shark or F.C 2). They make their sales over a longer period of time, it's the older school philophy of the gaming industry. :) Edited July 10, 2010 by element1108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonefilipe Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Trust me man, the Intellectual property of a product plus plus the salaries of the highly specialized engineers, programmers etc that work on the project is about 95% of what you pay. That would be highly unfair to the developer who puts in years of work only to have %50 of their revenue lost to a distribution company. Also note, most big game developers run on the feature film philosophy now a days. The financial success of a game is determined in how well the game sells in the first X amount of days after release. After those few precious days sales will drop and you can say the climax of the revenue stream has faded. I LOATH this philosophy, because I hate the whole "PRE ORDER THIS NOW" bull S*IT. We're living in the "blockbuster" age of gaming. Simulation series for the most part don't really fall into that catagory as MUCH (I don't know how the sales list looks for Black Shark or F.C 2). They make their sales over a longer period of time, it's the older school philophy of the gaming industry. :) I agree, and I can take that even further, many people only start to buy these sims when they reach a lower price tag, and play pirated versions while they wait. I can almost be certain that Falcon 4.0 sold more in the 7 years following it's release than in the first & second combined. Simulators are always released half-done, need a lot of mods/patches and a strong community to become consistent products, so, many people aren't whiling to pay the premium $$ on release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winz Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) It's nice to have most of your games under a single application, where you don't have to worry about where you but those discs (or even if they are still working), or where the hell is your manual with you CD-key. You don't have to worry about patches, you can select localized version as you see fit...etc. For ED it's a chance to bring DCS to much wider audience and use some of the clever marketing methods Steam offers (play whole weekend for free and then decide whether you wanna buy it) edit: Not to mention the reputation of Starforce Edited July 10, 2010 by winz The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonefilipe Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 It's nice to have most of your games under a single application, where you don't have to worry about where you but those discs (or even if they are still working), or where the hell is your manual with you CD-key. You don't have to worry about patches, you can select localized version as you see fit...etc. For ED it's a chance to bring DCS to much wider audience and use some of the clever marketing methods Steam offers (play whole weekend for free and then decide whether you wanna buy it) I do hope it will play in favour of sim community, in this time of PC gaming crysis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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