How many FPS are you getting with max details (untweaked)?

[Bestandskraft]

I have found various threads that deal with how to IMPROVE your FPS, but I have not seen a consolidated topic about how many FPS people are actually getting before any tweaking.

 

I recently bought an i7-980x, 1xATI Radeon 5970, Catalyst 10.4, 6 GB RAM, TrackIR 5, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and I was kind of expecting to see better performance with this sytem in max details than I am actually getting.

 

As a benchmark I used the "Shooting Range" mission. Without moving the aircraft (only batteries and external power connected), I measured my FPS when looking out the cockpit to my 11 o'clock towards Krymsk with Skhval uncaged (not moved from the initial position) and ABRIS on the map screen. All graphics settings are maxed out at 1680x1050, no AA/AF, VSync ON, no tweaking whatsover, mirrors on.

 

I am getting around 16 FPS. This seems rather low for a high-end system, especially considering I have seen people post about 50+ FPS on their older systems, albeit without specifying which detail settings they were using.

 

Again, I am not asking how to IMPROVE my FPS (I have already found enough answers to that), but what everyone's FPS are under the aforementioned conditions to get some kind of reference. I apologize in advance if a pertinent topic already exists and I was just too stupid to find it.

Edited May 8, 2010 by Bestandskraft

[159th_Viper]

Comparative Benchmarking:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=45931

[Garfieldo]

I just tried it and got 11 fps with the following system, although I cannot guarantee that the cfgs are completely un-weaked. All details were maxed out though.

 

Intel Core 2 Q6600, 4 GB RAM, GeForce 9800 GTX, Freetrack, Windows 7 Pro 64

[Frogfoot1606687865]

Well, I have just done a fresh install, and patched up to 1.01c and tried to replicate your settings. I get 21 fps on the same mission at the 11o'clock view.

 

My system specs are Intel i7 920 (@4GHz) Hyperthreading turned off.

Win 7 Pro 64 bit

12GB PC3-12800 (1600MHz) Memory

Nvidia Gforce 9800 (Stock speed)

Track IR 5

 

However by turning off mirrors it goes to 21 (mirrors not in view at 11o'clock)

Then by turning down Water to 1 it goes to 35

Then by turning off Shadows I get 43

 

I also turn off heat blur, reduce SHVAL resolution to 512 and i go to 48fps.

a few further tweaks and I very rarly dip below 60fps.

 

Cheers

Tom

[Bestandskraft]

Comparative Benchmarking:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=45931

 

Thanks for that link. The "problem" is that it uses the Instant Action mission which I can run at full detail without any noticeable slowdown or sluggishness at all. There must be something about my benchmark scene from "Shooting Range" (possibly the city of Krymsk in the distance) that makes it particularly demanding.

[Bestandskraft]

Well, I have just done a fresh install, and patched up to 1.01c and tried to replicate your settings. I get 21 fps on the same mission at the 11o'clock view.

 

My system specs are Intel i7 920 (@4GHz) Hyperthreading turned off.

Win 7 Pro 64 bit

12GB PC3-12800 (1600MHz) Memory

Nvidia Gforce 9800 (Stock speed)

Track IR 5

 

However by turning off mirrors it goes to 21 (mirrors not in view at 11o'clock)

Then by turning down Water to 1 it goes to 35

Then by turning off Shadows I get 43

 

I also turn off heat blur, reduce SHVAL resolution to 512 and i go to 48fps.

a few further tweaks and I very rarly dip below 60fps.

 

Cheers

Tom

 

It seems the main factor to account for the 5 FPS difference is your overclocking to 4 GHz. My processor runs at the stock speed of 3.33 GHz.

 

I am getting a very similar FPS increase when doing the steps as you describe. Although improving FPS is of course not the focus of this thread.

 

Keep'em coming guys.

[EtherealN]

Bestandskraft, if you upload a track file of the area where you are having issues I can run a comparison count on it.

[dburne]

Bestandsckraft,

 

With my system, loading the same mission and looking in the same direction, I get 28 fps. Now this is just as it was when I loaded the mission, I turned nothing on just whatever was by default.

I am running 8xS antialiasing, 16x anisitropic, and vsynch forced on.

Graphics maxed out in BS.

 

My system specs for reference:

EVGA X58 mb

Core I7 920 cpu (system overclocked to 4.022 ghz )

EVGA GTX 260 video card

6 gb Dominator GT ddr3 1600 mhz ram

Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro PCIe soundcard

[Bestandskraft]

Bestandskraft, if you upload a track file of the area where you are having issues I can run a comparison count on it.

 

Good idea! There you go. When I am looking to about 11 o'clock I am getting 17-18 FPS.

ShootingRangeBenchmark.trk

[EtherealN]

My results:

 

First run (everything maxed, except water=1 tweak and 512 cockpit screens)

Min: 26

Max: 32

Avg: 29.149

 

Second run (everything maxed, including water at high, still 512 cockpit screens)

Min: 16

Max: 31

Avg: 22.002

 

System as per my signature, except that the CPU is running at 3.8GHz instead of 4GHz right now (wattage sweetspot) and RAM and GPU are currently at stock speeds. Also, I do use a few mods (SharkPit v3, Skhval interlace, Frazer sound mod and runway mod) which might impact my results slightly in the downward direction. I also have MaxFPS set to 30. Going to remove the mods and remove that MaxFPS setting and see how that impacts things. Mod removal, and removal of the 8x Anisotropic Filtering and 8x Multisampling AntiAlias as well as removal of V-sync had no measurable effect.

 

Third run (gave it the 8x AA and AF back, V-sync back on, did not return the MaxFPS since it was a leftover from some previous tests, water=0)

Min: 26

Max: 62 (V-sync limits that)

Avg: 45.106

 

Final run (same as third, but V-sync off)

Min: 26

Max: 100

Avg: 51.036

 

The mins are basically happening when looking in that 11 o'clock direction. The reason why water has the effect it has is that it is actually being rendered below the terrain (the graphics engine conserves resources through having the ocean as a singular surface, which saves dramatically on overall triangle count for the terrain but has the side effect of getting rendered even when over solid ground). Might also be worth noting that there were background processes running while doing this (Chrome, a few folders open, TrackIR, BitTorrent for seeding the FC2 files and such as are the standard environment in which I would be playing).

 

Also worth noting is the MaxFPS thing from graphics.cfg - while it might seem strange to limit the FPS so close to my min and at way below where the average is otherwise, this means that there will be very little change in FPS between intense areas and the smoother ones. This lack of change is very powerful in giving you the impression of smooth graphics: the human brain notices those changes in FPS more than the FPS itself, meaning that a game that runs constantly at 30FPS might appear smoother than a game that's hopping between 40 and 60FPS, even though the latter is always technically at a higher refresh rate. It's an option to explore since DCS:BS does have a lot of variation in how busy various areas are.

Edited May 8, 2010 by EtherealN

[Bestandskraft]

Alright, appears as if it is not just my system, but that you simply cannot get a better performance right now with everything maxed out, mainly due to the water issue.

[Speed]

I have an above average system, quad core AMD phenom II overclocked to 3.2 GHz, HD 5850 saphire card, 8 gigs of RAM, vista 64.... and I simply do not go to max detail. Especially with the water- never turn the water graphics up. Now, I don't have much of a problem handling the game at max detail when nothing is going on, but add some shooting to an area with a high object density and my system would noticably slow down. Anyway, yea, you're going to want to turn down your water detail to as low as possible.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I keep everything at max and here's my test with FC 2.0

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=871177&postcount=13

[NataZatsepova]

How many FPS are you getting with max details untweaked

 

1-2 hours practice once or twice a week thats a lot when you have children, believe me and band rehearsal 2-3 hours once a week. Hopefully Ill have more hours to practice next year when I get 2 days off a week instead of one.

[kiss4luna]

about 35fps

[71st_Mastiff]

I have everything tweeked to high but water and I gat 23 to 55. BS with my multy monitor set up.

FC2 30 to 55.