104th Server R-77 For Su-27 & MiG-29G NATO Mod!

[104th_Crunch]

We are pleased to introduce the R-77 for Su-27 & MiG-29G NATO Mod for our server. We hope you enjoy these weapons and the change to tactics for these 2 jets it will bring.

 

While we know that the R-77 on the Su-27 modelled in FC2 has never been combat deployed, other versions of the Su-27 are able to use the R-77. So, while not 100% accurate, it is not a far fetched concept. The mod also includes our previous KAB-500kr and KH-29T mod for the Su-27.

 

The MiG-29G has been hypothetically upgraded by NATO to include the AIM-120B and AGM-65D A2G missile.

 

Recently the 104th have been discussing the use of extra mods for the 104th server. Many mods require that much of the file integrity checking be disabled, or that the client must download a mod package to match the server's mods in order to pass file checking. This may prove to be too intrusive so, we are going with this R-77 for Su-27 & MiG-29G NATO Mod for now as the 104th server does not file check weapons, so you will pass the file check on our server with or without this mod.

 

Our mission brieifngs on the server will be updated with this information soon. Please make new players aware that join our server as best as possible.

 

Thanks to 104th_Riptide for packing this weapons mod!

 

DOWNLOAD HERE

 

ENJOY!

Edited June 27, 2011 by Crunch

[Cali]

Are you guys gonna add LEAVU and Yoda's other mods back then?

[VAOZoky]

Please God no leavu, please please please please please...

[GGTharos]

Did it kick your dog or something? :P

[Boberro]

Leavu is nice should be too.

Su-25TM requests presence too :D

[HiJack]

Nice update! Will try these new weapons offline first ;)

 

Will the R-77 be part of the default loadout or do I need to make a new setting of my loadouts?

 

Quite a few aircrafts carrying it!

Carried by: Ka-50, Ka-52, MiG-29, MiG-31, Su-27, Su-30, Su-33, Su-34, Su-35, Su-37, Yak-141

Edited May 6, 2011 by HiJack

[Mustang]

Will the R-77 be part of the default loadout or do I need to make a new setting of my loadouts?

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/600721/104FlankerFulcrumGMod.rar install that with MODMAN, then you'll see it as an option in the payloads menu once you're in the cockpit.

[Teknetinium]

Its like a dream came through for me.

If this become a standard, Ill change my signature to

 

R-77 In Your Face.

[104th_Crunch]

Are you guys gonna add LEAVU and Yoda's other mods back then?

 

 

The thing is Cali, as mentioned, this weapons mod does not require a change with the file check. The only way to get LEAVU, Locked Tacview etc. is to remove the file check, or force all players to download a mod to match the server before joining. We ain't gonna remove file check, and only with a commitment from other server admins to do the same as us, will we do the latter.

 

I wish we had these mods as well, but file check seems to have proven helpful for cheating.

[Kuky]

The MiG-29G has been upgraded by NATO to include the AIM-120B and AGM-65D A2G missile, so this mod also replicates that.

 

alright, fair enough that the Flanker gets some weapons that it can carry for real, but what's up with this? Just when did the NATO even try to put the AIM-120 on the German MiG-29's

[104th_Crunch]

alright, fair enough that the Flanker gets some weapons that it can carry for real, but what's up with this? Just when did the NATO even try to put the AIM-120 on the German MiG-29's

 

Ask MoGas. It's his baby lol.

[FLANKERATOR]

AT LAST!!! Finally a new era is announced for the Flanker....Feel sad I cant give more reputation to Crunch...going for Riptide!!

 

The 104th server is one of the most popular in the community and am expecting more servers to include this weapons mod real soon.

 

Feel like FC3 has been released :D

[Falcon_S]

Good job!!!!

 

WELL DONE... Respect! 104th is first and finaly understand how is bored FC in present. I can`t believe...FINALY we have people to make FC MUCH INTERESTING!!!!!

 

I do not need r77 but i respect for the understanding of progress in aviation and effort you give us closer to reality in FC!!!

 

I`m so sory for my yell but i`m so suprised 104th! Well done!!! +1 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Edited May 6, 2011 by Falcon_S

[Pilotasso]

Strange MOD... R-77's on early flankers, AMRAAMs+ Mavs on german Migs...Okaaaayyy. :hehe:

Edited May 7, 2011 by Pilotasso

[Falcon_S]

Strange MOD... R-77's on early flankers, AMRAAMs+ Mavs on german Migs...Okaaaayyy. :hehe:

 

 

Don`t worry Pillotaso..bee cool and i think time is for change your signature...relax baby :lol:

[Falcon_S]

Well, talking about realism. ...

 

So, someone grew and stood up, and made sense on his server with the tools he has ...well done !

 

Finally... :thumbup:

[GGTharos]

91 - nope, pardon me, that was the A :P My bad.

 

accompanied by the appearance of an AIM120C introduced 1996 :huh:

Edited May 7, 2011 by GGTharos

[Kuky]

Difference is if you look up till now some Flankers did get R-77 as capable of carrying and launching, heck the J-22 Orao is now also capable of launching Mavericks... the Eagle can carry the AMRAAM... but the German MiG-29 (or any MiG for that matter) did never get modified to carry the AIM-120 or the Maverick so this one is completely fictional.

[Pilotasso]

Don`t worry Pillotaso..bee cool and i think time is for change your signature...relax baby :lol:

 

No need to change the signature and I am pretty relaxed since R-77's without TWS pretty much makes it little more dangerous than the mig we are used to. :)

[Cali]

Well, talking about realism. Either you succeed in implementing airframes and weapons in realistic-like behaviour and historical accuracy in terms of when being introduced and used (that is a no as we know anyways), or - that being a fail- you focus on equality in terms of playability and create a reasonable scenario in multiplayer environments.

Simple as that. A "somewhere between" or "half truth of realism" wont work, or how can you explain ingame models like

 

F-15C introduced 1979

Su-27 Flanker B introduced 1984

accompanied by the appearance of an AIM120C introduced 1996 :huh:

 

Without even mentioning the "fyling with drag chute" version of the 27ERs, and the funney fact how long the current R77 needs to pass 8nm airspace (another story ..) ...does that make sense anyways then ? :D

 

So, someone grew and stood up, and made sense on his server with the tools he has ...well done !

 

Why didn't ED put that in the game that 27's can carry R-77's? Ask them, even when we got FC2, they didn't add it. This will make it a little more interesting, but the 15 still has TWS. Like Kuky said a 120 on a Mig-29 :megalol:

Edited May 7, 2011 by Cali

[RIPTIDE]

Ya... The weapons mod provides for no more than 4 77's or with a mix of 2 ER's, 2 77's. So lets not have anyone flying around on the 104th with 10 77's or some other sillyness. It does not extend to the Su-33.

As for the MiG-29Ghey, in the absence of MoGas, he says that in the event of all out war, Ze Jermins would modify it to carry 120B. The weapons mod provides for no more than 4 120B's (+2 heaters) and also an advanced Multirole, 2 120's + AGM-65D's, or dedicated advanced Multirole (4 AGM-65's). So again... no guys with 6 120's B's or any C's, or mad triple ejector jacks. lol

Edited May 7, 2011 by RIPTIDE

[Cali]

Ya... The weapons mod provides for no more than 4 77's or with a mix of 2 ER's, 2 77's. So lets not have anyone flying around on the 104th with 10 77's or some other sillyness. It does not extend to the Su-33.

As for the MiG-29Ghey, in the absence of MoGas, he says that in the event of all out war, Ze Jermins would modify it to carry 120B. The weapons mod provides for no more than 4 120B's (+2 heaters) and also an advanced Multirole, 2 120's + AGM-65D's, or dedicated advanced Multirole (4 AGM-65's). So again... no guys with 6 120's B's or any C's, or mad triple ejector jacks. lol

 

That's horse crapola if the 33's can't have them either. If were adding missiles to aircraft, let them have them also, it's only fair.

[Kuky]

As for the MiG-29Ghey, in the absence of MoGas, he says that in the event of all out war, Ze Jermins would modify it to carry 120B.

 

what a stupid thing to say... if you want to go along that path (who ever said this) you can also say that in the event of all out war the Russians would upgrade their MiG-29's to have 4 pylons per wing, carry R-77 and lot of other A2G guided weapons... hell they would even upgrade them with thrust vectoring... but hey, what's the difference with Ze Germans would do this, when Russian already have done this... so far fetched if you ask me what 104th has done now I know I won't be flying there any more.

[104th_Crunch]

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You wanna hear my honest opinion....put the 120As on the 15s...give the Flankers ERs with longer range (longer arm vs fire and forget sounds like a sound BVR scenario ..A,F,E-poles etc etc) ...

 

That's a good idea as well. One that we have considered. When FC2 first came out and there were no customized weapon loadouts yet, the stock loadout for the F-15 was only a max of 2 x 120C I believe. It is a valid way of adjusting balance by controlling weapon loadouts and yet not interfering with realism.

 

A nice feature ( I like to repeat myself in the forums in case ED is listening:)) would be for the ability to customize and force lock the complete choice of payloads for a client in the mission file itself. Of course along with brining back the ability for a client to fully customize weapons per payload within the limits set by the mission.

 

what a stupid thing to say... if you want to go along that path (who ever said this) you can also say that in the event of all out war the Russians would upgrade their MiG-29's to have 4 pylons per wing, carry R-77 and lot of other A2G guided weapons... hell they would even upgrade them with thrust vectoring... but hey, what's the difference with Ze Germans would do this, when Russian already have done this... so far fetched if you ask me what 104th has done now I know I won't be flying there any more.

 

The MiG-29A NATO upgrade is just a senario meant to have a little fun with. Something special at the request of our members. You gotta consider all 104th missions never have more than a few MiG-29G on one side. The overall effect on the server is very little and the MIG-29S carries the R-77 anyway. In terms of A2G, this same mod lets you use extra A2G ordinance on the Su-27 as well. It doesn't affect player vs. player simulation.

Edited May 7, 2011 by Crunch

[Kuky]

I don't know... I think you guys are getting carried away