WIP - Improved CBU-97/105

[Crescendo]

Thanks ED for the sneak-peak and the excellent work. It all looks very cool, and is especially impressive because I imagine modelling sensor fused weapons is quite challenging in the context of hardware performance and the current DCS damage model.

 

Regarding the back and forth, I think that any 'realistic' simulation is at its heart essentially about nitpicking, so it should be actively encouraged as long as it's in the right arena. However, I can't help but think that a generously provided preliminary WIP thread is not an ideal time and place for it. I won't say that people cannot and should not do it, but I also won't blame ED if they're not as quick to share WIPs in the future.

[Laud]

I find a WIP-thread is the ideal place to mention stuff on topic. This is the time where things can be corrected when needed more easily than after a release. So as long as all is said in a polite way I think that shoud be fine.

[Dr Zaius]

I wanna to be left alone with the skeets :music_whistling:

 

Suggest showing some footage of CBU's going to work in Nevada, that'll really get this forum going crazy!

Edited August 6, 2011 by Dr Zaius

[Frostiken]

I gotta say, in all the videos, the little expended carriers the continue to float around like angry hornets amuses the hell out of me.

[Frostiken]

I also won't blame ED if they're not as quick to share WIPs in the future.

Why, because their feelings are hurt? I think a 'work in progress' thread is the best time to speculate on features and how it should work, when it's all, you know, in progress and can probably be changed before it's rolled out.

 

The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them something is perfect when it isn't. I don't see anything wrong with anything I posted - I simply noticed something, and mentioned it. If I'm wrong about it, I'm wrong, the bomb goes in as shown. If I'm not wrong, maybe they notice it's blowing up a lot higher than it should, it gets changed, and we get a more accurate product overall.

 

Would you have preferred I sandwich my concern between mountains of groveling and praise, like some vizier trying to explain to a brutal king that tax income is going to be lower this year? That just makes me disingenuous and doesn't actually change the nature of my concern. I'm really not concerned about a developer's feelings when it comes to product improvement.

 

Do you think that every bug report submitted begins with "This game is great, seriously, the best, you guys are awesome. I have deposited the necessary tribute to the PayPal account, and you will also find this gold statue I have erected to your divinity, my grace. Really, please, I am but a humble supplicant before your majesty. But I... uh... I'm so very very sorry but I'm terribly afraid that I think I may have possibly noticed a tiny problem...", just in case someone's feelings are hurt that they programmed something incorrectly? Are we really concerned with being politically correct *on the internet*?

 

No, you say "This is broke. Here's how to replicate it. Here's how it should work. It rates 2/5 on severity."

 

I could understand if I had said something to the effect of: "Nice job you idiots, this is total crap. Did you even bother looking at any videos of the bomb going off, or did you just guess and make some shit up? Why are you wasting your time on this garbage? Who cares, where the **** is Nevada?"... but I didn't. I was pretty much matter-of-fact to the point.

Edited August 6, 2011 by Frostiken

[digitaljjd]

Nice WIP! Hummm...aren't the F-16 and F-15E both able to carry these as well? :smilewink:

[Snoopy]

No, you say "This is broke. Here's how to replicate it. Here's how it should work. It rates 2/5 on severity."

 

And that my friend is pretty much how it happens on the testers side...

[Laud]

Nice WIP! Hummm...aren't the F-16 and F-15E both able to carry these as well? :smilewink:

 

That shot through my mind also! :D

[Frostiken]

Nice WIP! Hummm...aren't the F-16 and F-15E both able to carry these as well? :smilewink:

 

 

Bring the pain!

[TAIPAN_]

Awesome WIP!

 

That pic Frosti - really can the Eagle carry that much more than the Warthog?

Guided as well? Ie 105s

[Snoopy]

Awesome WIP!

 

That pic Frosti - really can the Eagle carry that much more than the Warthog?

Guided as well? Ie 105s

 

Oh yeah, I worked F-15s for a few years as well and an the amount of ordinance an F-15E can carry is amazing!!!

[EtherealN]

It can carry even more than what was on that pic, I'll try to find the picture.

 

EDIT: here we go

 

It lost it's droptanks, ofc, but conformals help as well. Now imagine the devastation you can cause with that many 97's. :D

Edited August 6, 2011 by EtherealN

[Heli Shed]

Good Job!

 

I was only talking about this last night when i was asked if ED would model the CBU 97/105 correctly. 'Nah, i said'............................

 

;-)

[Snoopy]

And once again I pray that if the F-15E isn't the next DCS module it will be eventually!!!!!

 

Would be nice to virtually fly both combat ACFT I've worked in my USAF career!!

[Frostiken]

Awesome WIP!

 

That pic Frosti - really can the Eagle carry that much more than the Warthog?

Guided as well? Ie 105s

 

Of course :) The F-15E is the absolute undisputed king of PGMs. There's really nothing else in the world that can match its capabilities.

 

It lacks in a few areas, for example if you compare the quantity of GBU-12s to the A-10, the A-10 comes out ahead (due to the fact that the GBU-12 is so long they can only rack up at most four on each side, leaving the center racks on STA3/4/6/7 unused)... but then again the F-15E has AGM-130s and, well, nukes ;D

 

And hell, if the cannon is your thing, the F-15E does plenty of ground strafing as well.

Edited August 6, 2011 by Frostiken

[sobek]

And hell, if the cannon is your thing, the F-15E does plenty of ground strafing as well.

 

Well, no offense, but compared to the Avenger the Vulcan is a Peashooter. :)

[159th_Viper]

....The -97 might be spinless.....

 

Correct - the SUU-66/B of the 97/105 are spinless.

[GGTharos]

... not to mention what every Hog vPilot wants the maverick to be: The SLAM/-ER.

 

. but then again the F-15E has AGM-130s and, well, nukes ;D

[Eddie]

... not to mention what every Hog vPilot wants the maverick to be: The SLAM/-ER.

 

LIES! I want Brimstone. :D

[sobek]

I want ALARM. :)

[Mugenjin]

I want cookies. :)

[159th_Viper]

I want cookies. :)

 

Frogfoot is the cake-master.......You're gonna have to Beg :D

[Frostiken]

Well, no offense, but compared to the Avenger the Vulcan is a Peashooter. :)

It'll still chunkify some Talibs :D

[Speed]

... not to mention what every Hog vPilot wants the maverick to be: The SLAM/-ER.

 

What? I thought only the F-18 could carry that amongst active combat aircraft?

 

Ah yes, you're right... that's awesome!

Edited August 6, 2011 by Speed

[Frostiken]

Technically the F-15E's been rated to carry just about anything that goes boom :p