MindBlowing F-111 3D model - sad: it's for FSX but must see

[HungaroJET]

It's amazing: :surprise:

 

 

This is THE 3D model ! :sorcerer:

I want this BEAUTY in DCS also :thumbup:

 

http://f111-fsx.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 27, 2012 by HungaroJET

[Blaze]

WOW! :surprise:

[Snoopy]

Very nice! Lived around 111s my entire life until tey retired them. Even flew the simulator at plattsburg afb back in the late 80s...

[HungaroJET]

WOW! :surprise:

 

Did you see the cool vapour/vortex/engine-start-smoke effects ?

...and the moving pivoted surfaces on the wing 'shoulder' or 'glove', the wing bending ? :surprise:

 

http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2010/11/weekend-wings-37-f-111-aardvark-part-1.html

 

http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2010/12/weekend-wings-38-f-111-aardvark-part-2.html

Edited November 18, 2011 by HungaroJET

[Blaze]

Some things it would be nice to have in DCS someday... :smartass:

[213]

we can do it with proper documentation. i saw russian forum has russian document. just needs english translation.

[alpinemike]

wow. That is killer!

[aaron886]

Pretty nice... but I'm not sure it demands THAT much of a freak-out there guys.

[alpinemike]

Pretty nice... but I'm not sure it demands THAT much of a freak-out there guys.

 

 

What eva. You know the (wing bending) animation is totally wicked!!!:rolleyes:

[aaron886]

It's COOL yeah, but it's not like... unheard-of. Or "mind blowing." haha

[213]

the most impressive "wing bending" flex animation at 3:40:

 

[HungaroJET]

It's COOL yeah, but it's not like... unheard-of. Or "mind blowing." haha

:megalol:

How about the cockpit ?

 

the most impressive "wing bending" flex animation at 3:40

 

Yep, the wing bending is not difficult @ touchdown. Looks like a joint animation with undercarriage leg compression, (Arg 1, 4, 6 in DCS/FC) but if it calculated/animated as wing load...WOW...of course you need to make bending animations to the 3D model.

 

Imagine the wing of a Hornet @ 9Gs or when inverted, anyhow it's a nice "mind blowing" effect to me, just like other vapour/vortex/smoke/touchdown effects :smilewink:

Edited November 19, 2011 by HungaroJET

[Vekkinho]

Some of the animations are wrong.

[Spyros]

Now I need THAT for DCS!

 

Or the Soviet plane that looks just like it (I don't remember the type), I don't mind! :)

[Airbuster]

The F-111 is a beautiful bird. Let's hope some day ED make the DCS platform open to third party developers, so that we can not only fly beauties like this, but use their weapons also.

[Dimebag]

Yes, imagine the potential of DCS if it were fully open to moddability. It would be mindblowing.

[159th_Falcon]

The F-111 is a beautiful bird. Let's hope some day ED make the DCS platform open to third party developers, so that we can not only fly beauties like this, but use their weapons also.

 

Yes, imagine the potential of DCS if it were fully open to moddability. It would be mindblowing.

 

No it wouldn't, cause then all realism is out the window. We got FSX for such things.

 

And if they make the F-111 happen, i also want to be able to dump and burn.

[Boberro]

Very nice cockpit!

[Airbuster]

No it wouldn't, cause then all realism is out the window. We got FSX for such things.

Well, it is you who decides which add-on is realistic enough for your taste and then buy it...

Edited November 21, 2011 by Airbuster

[159th_Falcon]

Well, it is you who decides which add-on is realistic enough for your taste and then buy it...

Depends, if its Single Player only then yes.

If also multiplayer the following occurs.

 

I decide it is not/cannot be realistic to the extend of KA50 and A10C

Someone else decides it is and buys it.

 

Will we be able to fly online? if yes do his Aim 120's perform same as mine?

Is his RWR behaving normally?

Does his TGP have some magic automatic scan mode?

 

And more of that blah blah, really, i would love this and more planes in DCS.

But made by the people that know how to do it right.

 

Eagle Dynamics.

 

 

Not some plane modelling company that's after an quick and easy profit.

By merely looking at the wants of the customer instead of real life limitations.

 

Lastly, how am i to find out if an add-on is realistic or not without buying it first?

Demo's have features disabled because well, its a Demo not the full product.

 

So one solution could be to make it such that plane's can be added, but then you can't fly online whit the models ED made.

At the risk of splitting the already fairly small online community.

 

~S~

 

That more excellent modeled planes may come our way.

[MadMaxter]

Depends, if its Single Player only then yes.

If also multiplayer the following occurs.

 

I decide it is not/cannot be realistic to the extend of KA50 and A10C

Someone else decides it is and buys it.

 

Will we be able to fly online? if yes do his Aim 120's perform same as mine?

Is his RWR behaving normally?

Does his TGP have some magic automatic scan mode?

 

And more of that blah blah, really, i would love this and more planes in DCS.

But made by the people that know how to do it right.

 

Eagle Dynamics.

 

 

I like ED as much as the next guy. But the only reason they are the only ones that can do it right is because they are the only ones that have the tools to do it right.

 

FSX got the way it did by allowing the community the tools needed to make these beautiful mods. This F111 is not designed and sold by MicroS0ft, it is done by a third party developer who had enough of the tools needed to complete such a complete bird.

 

ED limits this by keeping key components close to the vest. Does laying down such restrictions help in sales? Not if you look at which sim has the biggest fan base and community and sales. Its MS, the one with the more complete SDK available for modding.

 

This is an excellent F111. But it didn't happen by accident. And it could happen here too. If ED would allow it.

 

And so far as multiplayer? The integrity checks seem to work well. At least for us at VNAO. Our mods are thick, but they are all the same. The weapons behave the same, and the odds are even.

 

Max

Edited November 22, 2011 by MadMaxter
after thought

[rattler]

Glad to hear from you Max, you are absolutely correct, what more can one say. I hate to hear the excuses this brings up. cheers and VNAO keep doing what you are doing.:thumbup:

 

rattler

[159th_Falcon]

Integrity Check is indeed a good point. But only aimed at existing aircraft in the sim.

So it could disable features a plane should have, or let things behave more advanced then they should.

(if even there in the real A/C)

 

Of course, more modability means more sales, but do i play this sim because i want high sales or because i want realism?

 

And really the mods look awesome, but how realistic are they modelled in ED's key points?

Like Avionics, electrical system, hydraulic system, how does the damage model behave

compared to the real AC and what influence does it have on the systems. etc etc.

 

Details like that can be obtained by ED trough military contracts/contacts and i wonder how,

and even if an third party developer could even aquire the necessary data to bring there

model up to the DCS standards.

 

But if there will be a way to ensure the high standard DCS/ED sets, then i'm all for 3rd party aircraft's.

 

And Rattler is right, keep doing what you are doing, cause from what ive hearth your mods (VNAO) are great.

But to be honest, never tried any myself.

 

~S~ And that the development of your projects may go smoothly.

[MadMaxter]

Integrity Check is indeed a good point. But only aimed at existing aircraft in the sim.

So it could disable features a plane should have, or let things behave more advanced then they should.

(if even there in the real A/C)

 

Of course, more modability means more sales, but do i play this sim because i want high sales or because i want realism?

 

And really the mods look awesome, but how realistic are they modelled in ED's key points?

Like Avionics, electrical system, hydraulic system, how does the damage model behave

compared to the real AC and what influence does it have on the systems. etc etc.

 

Details like that can be obtained by ED trough military contracts/contacts and i wonder how,

and even if an third party developer could even aquire the necessary data to bring there

model up to the DCS standards.

 

But if there will be a way to ensure the high standard DCS/ED sets, then i'm all for 3rd party aircraft's.

 

And Rattler is right, keep doing what you are doing, cause from what ive hearth your mods (VNAO) are great.

But to be honest, never tried any myself.

 

~S~ And that the development of your projects may go smoothly.

 

You make some valid points about realism. When I go look for completely realistic planes in FSX I am very picky. Having said that, the environment that MS created with the SDK and moddability has made it so that some really beautiful third party companies have emerged with astonishing realism.

 

Captainsim is a notable one. Their birds are usually the last word on them when they come out. The C130 is so realistic that my father, who was flight engineer on the LC-130H ski-equipped herc that flew to Antarctica for the navy, could not find fault with its avionics, flight model and even the sound.

 

Caranado is a great civilian aircraft designer that has created some brilliantly realistic aircraft for the sim.

 

And there's another sim out there that has seen the writing on the wall with regards to making third party aircraft. XPlane. With Xplane you can use a freeware modeller (Blender) a freeware paint program (Gimp) and its own built in plane builder to create astoundingly realistic aircraft. Down to the design of the airfoil. The T-34 mentor for Xplane is a noteworthy example.

 

The integrity check only targets the stock aircraft? I was unaware of this, but even so, thats something that ED could remedy if they wanted to.

 

I have been simming for going on thirteen years and this has always been an issue and it is proven right, again and again.

 

Xplane's sales are up, and more importantly, its community is growing. There are many factors for this, but certainly the ability for the game to grow beyond the limits of what is on the disk has something to do with it.

 

Thanks,

Max

[Buckram]

That's a beautiful model