hog_driver111th Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-us-sell-f-15s-saudi-arabia-233938789.html?fb_action_ids=2948152902332%2C2948145062136%2C2948141022035%2C2827156074114%2C2827148313920&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_source=other_multiline&code=AQAZu3vH1jGm8IqCadt4vg0RuqMlk3UwjPpKGjtfAZtdPNbuAN2zYJfRjrIdJxS_OQ8HFHAQ3oSEWzzrvCKeEaMTxq52GV7mDO4cr5aOvkO0IIujZp3dax-13aDLICBV6UI3Qgj5mYxb_RonEUBToGSuNz8voL8uARQ_R9WTgPyg4qg3R5UEaQAAa6GrPqinaj8#_=_ A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
Viper101 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Nothing really new about this unless they are referring to Strike Eagle variants. Saudi Arabia already has normal Eagles. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cali Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 They had them back in DS1, I think they even flew a few sorties. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
hassata Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 They've had gimped Strike Eagles for a while. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Geskes Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Nothing really new about this unless they are referring to Strike Eagle variants. Saudi Arabia already has normal Eagles. Of course it is new. They get 84 additional jets + upgrades for the ones they already have. I7920/12GBDDR3/ASUS P6T DELUXE V2/MSI GTX 960 GAMING 4G /WIN 10 Ultimate/TM HOTAS WARTHOG
vanir Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Plus the SE are new build aren't they? The rest of the Eagle fleet are nearing end of airframe life. This batch will go for another 30yrs, hence the updates, they're calling them 3.5 gen like the superflanker. Anyone know if they're giving the Saudi's phased array? I still find the whole thing politically questionable but this isn't the place for that kind of discussion.
Pilotasso Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 The F-15SA do not have any RCS reduction features the SE has. Also I believe Saudi Eagles have had downgraded capabilities as compared to US and Israeli models. Such downgrades consist in sensor maximum resolution and other items related to attack capabilities. .
Cali Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I highly doubt that the US will sale anything top of the line that they have, so I think Pilotasso is right. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
vanir Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 like the paki vipers, guessed that much but is it the old radar set or are they giving the new phased array dish? they're getting F100-229 and new build airframes aren't they?
hassata Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 No SAP. Wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of 'kill switch' scenario going on either, something a certain someone may have insisted on or planted. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tflash Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/awx/2011/12/29/awx_12_29_2011_p0-410195.xml&headline=Saudi, U.S. Finalize F-15SA Sale&channel=defense "The deal with Saudi Arabia includes Raytheon advanced, electronically scanned array (AESA) radars for the F-15s, plus 10 Goodrich DB-110s, an internationally marketable version of the Senior-Year Electro-Optical Reconnaissance System flying on the U-2, and an infrared search-and-track capability. Sniper and Lantirn targeting and navigation pods are also part of the package, along with Digital Electronic Warfare System. The weapons package features AIM 120C7s, the AIM-9X Sidewinder for air-to-air engagements. Also included are 500-lb. dual-mode laser-guided munitions, 2,000-lb. Paveway III laser-guided bombs and Sensor-fuzed Weapons including the Wind-corrected Munitions Dispensers and 2,000 lb. Joint Direct Attack Munitions for hitting ground targets. The AGM-84 Harpoon Block II, which does not include the Block III data link package for in-flight retargeting, is built-in for engagement of ships and the Saudis are also buying the AGM-88B High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile. " [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cali Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Trust me they aren't getting everything USAF jets have. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
vanir Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) ah thanks tflash, when I just do general googles on things like that I wind up with all the adware and spam sites since I don't look up things like that very regularly to know which sites to go straight to. your instincts are on track of course cali, but the way I understand it is the most closely guarded secret on the USAF fleet is their datalink system. They'll be giving an older, but NATO compatable one for sure. The USAF datalink update on your Eagles though puts them more in the Flanker/SuperMiG class for inflight avionics data exchange even between squadron mates. It's a major 3.5 gen feature, probably more important than flash in the pan "stealth" (wish people would call it high survivability) features. The block 2, 3 harpoon datalink they're talking about, probably ties in with this. Probably need the newer update on the bird to support block 3 on the harpoon, as in this retargeting feature was probably built around the avionics datalink (the one used with AWACS etc) update. Kind of getting outside my own scope here but, my technical knowledge is pretty limited. Edited December 31, 2011 by vanir
elchacal Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 And what about F-15SE? It was exported to some country? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 No, its in development in case anyone wants it. I dont believe they built a full prototype yet but to modify an existing F-15E with internal sidebays. .
Kusch Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 According to the DSCA the Saudis are getting far more than just 84 new F-15s for their 29.4 billion dollars. 84 F-15SA Aircraft 170 APG-63(v)3 Active Electronically Scanned Array Radar (AESA) radar sets 193 F-110-GE-129 Improved Performance Engines 100 M61 Vulcan Cannons 100 Link-16 Multifunctional Information Distribution System/Low Volume Terminal (MIDS/LVT) and spares 193 LANTIRN Navigation Pods (3rd Generation-Tiger Eye) 338 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS) 462 AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles (NVGS) 300 AIM-9X SIDEWINDER Missiles 25 Captive Air Training Missiles (CATM-9X) 25 Special Air Training Missiles (NATM-9X) 500 AIM-120C/7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) 25 AIM-120 CATMs 1,000 Dual Mode Laser/Global Positioning System (GPS) Guided Munitions (500 lb) 1,000 Dual Mode Laser/GPS Guided Munitions (2000 lb) 1,100 GBU-24 PAVEWAY III Laser Guided Bombs (2000 lb) 1,000 GBU-31B V3 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) (2000 lb) 1,300 CBU-105D/B Sensor Fuzed Weapons (SFW)/Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser (WCMD) 50 CBU-105 Inert 1,000 MK-82 500lb General Purpose Bombs 6,000 MK-82 500lb Inert Training Bombs 2,000 MK-84 2000lb General Purpose Bombs 2,000 MK-84 2000lb Inert Training Bombs 200,000 20mm Cartridges 400,000 20mm Target Practice Cartridges 400 AGM-84 Block II HARPOON Missiles 600 AGM-88B HARM Missiles 169 Digital Electronic Warfare Systems (DEWS) 158 AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Targeting Systems 169 AN/AAS-42 Infrared Search and Track (IRST) Systems 10 DB-110 Reconnaissance Pods 462 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System Helmets 40 Remotely Operated Video Enhanced Receivers (ROVER) 80 Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation Pods Also included are the upgrade of the existing Royal Saudi Air Force (RSAF) fleet of seventy (70) F-15S multi-role fighters to the F-15SA configuration, the provision for CONUS-based fighter training operations for a twelve (12) F-15SA contingent, construction, refurbishments, and infrastructure improvements of several support facilities for the F-15SA in-Kingdom and/or CONUS operations, RR-188 Chaff, MJU-7/10 Flares, training munitions, Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices, communication security, site surveys, trainers, simulators, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistical support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated cost is $29.432 billion Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
RIPTIDE Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 ^^ Fck sake Santa. That was for me!!! Saudis must have had one big Xmas tree. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kusch Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 AN/AAS-42 Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
hassata Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Don't forget all those Euro Fighters they just purchased. Good luck finding competent pilots, though I suspect the U.S. jets will partly function as an advance depot for American pilots if and when things kick off with Iran. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mustang Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Don't forget all those Euro Fighters they just purchased. Good luck finding competent pilots, though I suspect the U.S. jets will partly function as an advance depot for American pilots if and when things kick off with Iran. Yes, this all seems to look like a rush to get kit into place if things escalate with Iran in the near future http://news.yahoo.com/u-3-5-billion-arms-sale-uae-amid-154211697.html%3B_ylt%3DAouBfDy5OU2f5AjBX5hynDGs0NUE%3B_ylu%3DX3oDMTNsYTQxZjRhBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBGUARwa2cDYzk2MjgwZWYtY2YxMy0zOGUxLWE0NWUtMmQ3MmMxN2Q5NWVlBHBvcwM2BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyA2IwNDNmMzkwLTMzYzYtMTFlMS1iMzViLWIzZDUwYTM3ZGMzMA--%3B_ylg%3DX3oDMTFvdnRqYzJoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD%3B_ylv%3D3
theghost Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Yes, this all seems to look like a rush to get kit into place if things escalate with Iran in the near future http://news.yahoo.com/u-3-5-billion-arms-sale-uae-amid-154211697.html%3B_ylt%3DAouBfDy5OU2f5AjBX5hynDGs0NUE%3B_ylu%3DX3oDMTNsYTQxZjRhBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBGUARwa2cDYzk2MjgwZWYtY2YxMy0zOGUxLWE0NWUtMmQ3MmMxN2Q5NWVlBHBvcwM2BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyA2IwNDNmMzkwLTMzYzYtMTFlMS1iMzViLWIzZDUwYTM3ZGMzMA--%3B_ylg%3DX3oDMTFvdnRqYzJoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD%3B_ylv%3D3 Wake up sir The future is here, and the attack is much closer than you think The 147 Squadron commander "The Goring Ram"
Kuky Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Great... that's all this planet needs... yet another war... when will people learn? They should fight these wars like in the old days... let the leaders fight their war instead of the common man PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
theghost Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Wise man once said " I do not know how World War III will look But I know that in World War 4 the Fight Will be with a bow and arrow" The 147 Squadron commander "The Goring Ram"
PlainSight Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Wise man once said " I do not know how World War III will look But I know that in World War 4 the Fight Will be with a bow and arrow" Butler was even wiser: "War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Don't forget all those Euro Fighters they just purchased. Good luck finding competent pilots, though I suspect the U.S. jets will partly function as an advance depot for American pilots if and when things kick off with Iran. Why you say Saudi pilots are not competent? .
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