diveplane Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 how on earth did 2 massive cruise ships scrape into one another in good visibility? https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 how on earth did 2 massive cruise ships scrape into one another in good visibility? Captains too busy looking at all the girls in bikini's, can be the only option. Intel 5820k | Asus X-99A | Crucial 16GB | Powercolor Devil RX580 8GB | Win 10 x64 | Oculus Rift | https://gallery.ksotov.co.uk Patiently waiting for: DCS: Panavia Tornado, DCS: SA-2 Guideline, DCS: SA-3 Goa, DCS: S-300 Grumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 heres another example of wtf?. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 how on earth did 2 massive cruise ships scrape into one another in good visibility? "But..but..the huge cruise ship appeared out of nowhere! I hit the brakes but it was too late!". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlainSight Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Someone didn't read [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monotwix Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 It’s a narrow window of opportunity for some one to get a fishing rod out and fish. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) wow this one is a shocker us sub sinks tug 1980s , sadly few sailors from the tug drowned. amazes me how the captain didnt slam the sub to a halt, to let the tug clear .. ? Edited January 12, 2012 by diveplane https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feuerfalke Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 First one is in the docks. So probably the tugs didn't calculate the very strong wind. The pushers of the active ship is going full throttle, but they can't stand the wind. Most of them are most likely due to cheap crews.... with all the negative side-effects. Gigabyte GA-Z87-UD3H | i7 4470k @ 4.5 GHz | 16 GB DDR3 @ 2.133 Ghz | GTX 1080 | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | Creative X-Fi Ti | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win10 64 HP | X-Keys Pro 20 & Pro 54 | 2x TM MFD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) First one is in the docks. So probably the tugs didn't calculate the very strong wind. The pushers of the active ship is going full throttle, but they can't stand the wind. Most of them are most likely due to cheap crews.... with all the negative side-effects. after viewing that video i hold the sub captain responsible, for he could have prevented this sinking, decision to keep sailing forward while a vessel is in trouble beside your sub is not common sence thinking by any means..hq should have had this guy out of commanding boats. Edited January 13, 2012 by diveplane https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Ships are not like automobiles, they don't halt on short notice... They probably wouldn't have been able to stop before ramming it either way. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) First one is in the docks. So probably the tugs didn't calculate the very strong wind. The pushers of the active ship is going full throttle, but they can't stand the wind. Most of them are most likely due to cheap crews.... with all the negative side-effects. was engine failure that caused the tug to get stuck side by side, high winds they would never allow crew walking the decks if that was the case or a man transfer for that matter. high winds you would have seen the tug pitch in the water ..not the case here. captains mistake was he kept powering forward hoping the tug would break free, it did but jammed on the rear stern diveplanes, that sealed the tugs fate. Edited January 12, 2012 by diveplane https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 captains mistake was he kept powering forward hoping the tug would break free, it did but jammed on the rear stern diveplanes, that sealed the tugs fate. The question is whether they could have powered down fast enough. You are aware that these things are powered by fission reactors... Was there any court martial regarding that incident? Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) The question is whether they could have powered down fast enough. You are aware that these things are powered by fission reactors... Was there any court martial regarding that incident? yes i agree , myth or truth but i rekon they can stop fairly quick, open to debate but am sure these subs are quite nimble in the water. no idea what happened to the command of the sub, but am sure heads would have rolled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Georgia_(SSBN-729) .........wiki source USS Secota (YTB-415) was a harbor tug that served in the United States Navy from 1945 to 1986. The Secota was assigned to the Pacific Fleet soon after delivery to the Navy. She was at Okinawa in August 1945; visited Tsingtao, China in July 1946; and replaced USS Anamosa at Yokosuka, Japan, on 20 August 1947. During 1950, Secota visited Hungnam and Pusan, Korea; her last recorded port of call was Sasebo, Japan, apparently returning to Japan from Korea during the waning days of 1950. After that time, Secota was continuously assigned to advanced American bases in the Pacific. In February 1962 she was redesignated a medium harbor tug, YTM-415. On 22 March 1986, near Midway Island, Secota had just completed a personnel transfer with the USS Georgia when the Secota lost power and collided with the Georgia. From amateur video taken of the incident, it appears Georgia increased speed before the tug was clear causing an impact with the sub's stern dive planes.[1]. Secota sank, ten crewman were rescued but two drowned. Georgia was undamaged. ......... Edited January 13, 2012 by diveplane https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilBivol-1 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Russian sub near-miss: Glad everyone's okay, but pretty funny to watch the masts move by apparently in total ignorance of the boat. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depth Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 A Russian submarine hit a Norwegian oil rig some years back, nobody got hurt and the damage was repaired but the captain shot himself after returning to shore. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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diveplane Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Russian sub near-miss: Glad everyone's okay, but pretty funny to watch the masts move by apparently in total ignorance of the boat. wow very close indeed. mind hudge hull is hidden under the surface, could have easily slammed against the ships bow. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 yes i agree , myth or truth but i rekon they can stop fairly quick, open to debate but am sure these subs are quite nimble in the water. Yeah, 16-thousand tonne vessel built for operation under the water is "quite nible" on the surface... Right. ;) Regarding power, I obviously don't know exactly how they handle power transmission, so I'm not convinced they have to turn down the reactor effect to slow down, but it should be noted that for example the Alpha class had liquid-metal-cooled reactors, a special type considered by some to be a bit too dangerous to operate (but again, I'm not a nuclear engineer) specifically to allow quick changes in output. Similarly, I have been on-board a two-master sailship (though we were under engine power at the time) that nearly rammed another one in the side in harbor. Ships are extremely difficult to maneuver anywhere fast, even small ones, I don't want to think about how hard it would be to maneuver something that displaces in the tens of thousands of tonnes. Obviously, this goes for cruise ships as well. You don't see them skidding in like private racing boats for a good reason. When they're moving, they have a lot of inertia. Think of a train that slams all it's breaks and still takes a kilometre to stop - except even bigger, and there's no such thing as breaks on these things. Best you can do is try to reverse screws, but this is not particularly effective either. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
july865 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 re: cruise ships.... i wonder if they have to swap license and insurance info? you can clearly see the azure pods cranking up and splashing against the other ships hull. but the ship had too much wind against its starboard. its a big 300,000 sq ft sail. clean-up on deck 3, and 4. Asus x99, i7 5930k, 32g mem, MSI 1070GTX, 970 Samsung M.2, LG 35in Ultra-Wide, TrackIR 4 Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monotwix Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 With the sail like that it should be possible to go sailing without having to mess around on decks. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
july865 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 how ironic that we were talking about cruise ships and 1 struck a reef in italy. looks like its going to sink. Asus x99, i7 5930k, 32g mem, MSI 1070GTX, 970 Samsung M.2, LG 35in Ultra-Wide, TrackIR 4 Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmer Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) how ironic that we were talking about cruise ships and 1 struck a reef in italy. looks like its going to sink. Yep, almost looks like she is going under. Its the Italian cruise ship the Costa Concordia. 290 meters long.3780 passengers and 1100 crewmembers. Build in 2005;launched in 2006. In service with Costa Cruises. So far as the news went ,3 persons died ; 70 are missing. Edited January 14, 2012 by Emmer [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlainSight Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It won't sink any deeper, it already lies on the reef. But how in the world did this happen, only short time after NZ cargo ship disaster? Is something throwing off their GPS or what? [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmer Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) It won't sink any deeper, it already lies on the reef. But how in the world did this happen, only short time after NZ cargo ship disaster? Is something throwing off their GPS or what? According to the ships captain there was a piece of rock which shouldn't be there.Because it wasn't pointed out on the ships seamap. They should have enough water under them. The accident happened 200 meters from the island Giglio , 30 km from the coast of Toscane , Italy. At least thats what i got from the media. Edited January 14, 2012 by Emmer [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
july865 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 you know what would drive the nail in the coffin? a storm whipping up and beating it even further on the reef. i wonder what the salvage cost would be and how long it would take? Asus x99, i7 5930k, 32g mem, MSI 1070GTX, 970 Samsung M.2, LG 35in Ultra-Wide, TrackIR 4 Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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