power5 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Didn't even know there was a Korean version of Top Gear. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/03/04/helicopter-crash-caught-on-camera.cnn Looks like pilot error to me. See Helicopters do not just blow up anytime they touch the ground a bit too hard. Glad everyone was okay. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109
BTTW-DratsaB Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Lucky, crashing helicopters are scary things! Specs: GA-Z87X-UD3H, i7-4770k, 16GB, RTX2060, SB AE-5, 750watt Corsair PSU, X52, Track IR4, Win10x64. Sim Settings: Textures: ? | Scenes: ? |Water: ? | Visibility Range: ? | Heat Blur: ? | Shadows: ? | Res: 1680x1050 | Aspect: 16:10 | Monitors: 1 Screen | MSAA: ? | Tree Visibility: ? | Vsync: On | Mirrors: ? | Civ Traffic: High | Res Of Cockpit Disp: 512 | Clutter: ? | Fullscreen: On
rextar Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Wtf was the pilot thinking!!! Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Wtf was the pilot thinking!!! Oh I'm sure he thought crashing the helicopter was a great idea. :rolleyes: Far too little evidence on that vid to rule out a technical fault. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Griffin Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Yeah easy there with assumptions based on a few second video. From PPrune: ************************************************************ ******************** ** Notice created 3/2/2012 Notice 1 ** ************************************************************ ******************** IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 197LE Make/Model: AH-1 Description: BELL HELICOPTER Date: 03/01/2012 Time: 1811 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: COOLIDGE State: AZ Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ENCOUNTERED A HYDCRAULIC FAILURE AND CRASHED INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: OTHER DATA Activity: Business Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date: 03/02/2012
NRG-Vampire Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Wtf was the pilot thinking!!! Oh, come on man :wallbash: There wasn't time to think: mechanical/hidraulic (probably rotor) failure @ low altitude means: sudden crash (usually) :doh: http://www.leftlanenews.com/top-gear-korea-cobra-helicopter-turbines-fail-crashes-in-arizona-desert-video.html ... and with the low altitude part of the equation, things went from bad to ugly in seconds. Edited March 6, 2012 by NRG-Vampire http://www.leftlanenews.com
BlueRidgeDx Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Looks like pilot error to me. See Helicopters do not just blow up anytime they touch the ground a bit too hard. It's true. Helicopters only blow up when pilot error is involved. :doh: "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
power5 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Posted March 7, 2012 It's true. Helicopters only blow up when pilot error is involved. :doh: I did not mean anything. Just looked like pilot error to me due to the slow speed and low altitude, I figured he had pushed forward too far and did not have enough lift. Helicopter almost always blows up in BS. That was my main point of the comment. Also pretty sure as with any accident blame is not immediately placed on the correct party. I know I have heard excuses from people who cause accidents claiming a different scenario. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109
Slayer Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Vortex ring state anyone.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System Specs Intel I7-3930K, Asrock EXTREME9, EVGA TITAN, Mushkin Chronos SSD, 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 2133, TM Warthog and MFD's, Saitek Proflight Combat pedals, TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO, Windows 7 x64, 3-Asus VS2248H-P monitors, Thermaltake Level 10 GT, Obutto cockpit
CarneyUK Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Certainly wasn't retreating blade stall :music_whistling:...... At least everyone I ok! The heli can be fixed!! "The sky is not the limit.....it's my playground!!" @paraglidecass
topol-m Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 The heli can be fixed!! Actually it looks quite dead :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MoGas Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 I hear no turbine noise at all, even after hitting the floor, it seems to me like a fatal engine failure, at the rong time.
mvsgas Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Every accident is cause by a series of events, never just one thing. From human factors to mechanical problems or all of them at once To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
AlphaOneSix Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 I hear no turbine noise at all, even after hitting the floor, it seems to me like a fatal engine failure, at the rong time. Odd, because you can hear the engine running after the crash before the pilot had a chance to shut it down.
mvsgas Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 And we won't know what cause the hydraulic failure until the investigation is complete. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
AlphaOneSix Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Yeah the hydraulic failure was part of the preliminary report. That may be true, but it will still be a while before the full details come out.
Griffin Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Yeah just saying that no point speculating pilot error, engine failure, VRS and the like if the preliminary report contradicts them. :)
Griffin Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 Cockpit view of the crash: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f70_1333743291
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