Is it a missile or rocket?

[sgtmike74]

Why is a S25l called a laser guided rocket as opposed to a laser guided missile?

[EtherealN]

That is probably a translation blooper. If I know my russian right (and it's not exactly good), it uses the same word (ракета - "raketa") for both "rocket" and "missile".

 

EDIT: Wait, I thought you were talking about the Berkut system (NATO name SA-1). In the case of the S-25-L it's probably called a rocket because it's originally an unguided rocket that had a guidance system attached. Compare to the western DAGR system (Direct Attack Guided Rocket) which is based on the Hydra rocket.

Edited May 11, 2012 by EtherealN

[Grimes]

Just a guess, but it might be because the vanilla S-25 is an unguided rocket and the laser version is basically the same except with laser guidance.

[Depth]

Semantics. Anything with rocket propulsion is considered a rocket.

 

Any projectile (except a bullet) launched through the air intended for a target is a missile, be it arrow, spear or rocket.

 

I.E. a cruise missile with a jet engine is not a rocket, and the rockets used in the space programme were not missiles.

[sgtmike74]

Makes sense now.

[EtherealN]

Any projectile (except a bullet) launched through the air intended for a target is a missile, be it arrow, spear or rocket.

[/Quote]

 

Incorrect.

 

mis·sile   [mis-uhl or, especially Brit., -ahyl] Show IPA

noun

1.

an object or weapon for throwing, hurling, or shooting, as a stone, bullet, or arrow.

2.

guided missile.

3.

ballistic missile.

 

From dictionary.com. :)

[Depth]

Oh snap :thumbup:

[EtherealN]

The word basically comes from the latin for "thrown object", pretty much. :)

 

I guess it could almost be considered a synonym to "projectile", though obviously modern usage has changed it's meaning. So it does sort of become a bit semanting where it ends up depending a lot on the context. Most people would be confused if we said "missiles flying all over the place" about a western-movie shootout, even if it is technically correct. :)

[Harzach]

Most people would be confused if we said "missiles flying all over the place" about a western-movie shootout...

 

Uh, that would be AWESOME.

[badger66]

Its a laser guided rocket in my book .

[hitman]

Technically speaking, if its exhaust nozzle is only divergent, and is solid/liquid propellant which creates its own oxygen for combustion, instead of dino gas, it is a rocket motor, hence a rocket.

 

A missile is an object in flight. A rock is a rocket is a bullet is a penny flicked is a missile. Semantics.

[Yellonet]

It's a missile with a rocket motor! :D

[Lucky]

So what would projectile vomiting be considered? :music_whistling:

[Weta43]

So,

 

Is it a missile or rocket ?

 

Yes...

[NRG-Vampire]

In my "book": ;)

 

Unguided = Rocket

 

Guided/controlled = Missile

[effte]

Chuck Norris doesn't do missiles. Whatever he is using is becomes hit-iles... ;)

 

And is a small rock a rock-ette?

 

(Sorry for the OT, but it is Friday after all!)

[PeterP]

That is probably a translation blooper. If I know my russian right (and it's not exactly good), it uses the same word (ракета - "raketa") for both "rocket" and "missile".

 

 

It's the same in German - we usually speak only of a "Rakete" - there is no term like missile in German. (even if Herr von Braun had invented this sometime...)

We can only precise it by adding a adjective like ungelekt/gelenkt = unguided/guided

So: every missile is a rocket , but not every rocket is a missile.

 

 

And a rock is a rock , - but sometimes it is called also meteorite when it flies.:D

[BlueRidgeDx]

Etimology aside, the proper usage of "rocket" in the context of US military jargon is to describe an unguided (ballistic) rocket propelled projectile, i.e. an RPG, or the FROG/Scud.

 

"Missile" refers to any guided weapon that generates it's own thrust. Missiles are not necessarily rocket powered, i.e. the AGM-84, AGM-86 and BGM-109. Most are rocket powered though, i.e. AGM-65, AGM-88, AGM-130, etc...

[slowhand]

:megalol:so if a rock is a rock expt when its flying..then stoned is something you get after being rocked? unless your a drummer and rock is what u do and stoned is what you get..:music_whistling::lol::doh: and it is Friday...:punk::puke::smoke:

[hitman]

Etimology aside, the proper usage of "rocket" in the context of US military jargon is to describe an unguided (ballistic) rocket propelled projectile, i.e. an RPG, or the FROG/Scud.

 

"Missile" refers to any guided weapon that generates it's own thrust. Missiles are not necessarily rocket powered, i.e. the AGM-84, AGM-86 and BGM-109. Most are rocket powered though, i.e. AGM-65, AGM-88, AGM-130, etc...

Actually, rocket is just a type of engine. About as simplified as one can get...you fill up a bottle with half water and pressurize the bottle with compressed air, you got a water rocket. A chemical reactor engine. Yada yada yada.

[PeterP]

:D Yada yada yada

 

A missile is as long a missile as it is guided - when no guidance is available - the missile becomes a rocket - or even only something like a flying rock.

[Depth]

What happened here? First 6 posts had the answer and now we're on page 3?:huh:

 

Oh it's friday :music_whistling:

[PeterP]

The thread has been answered on page 1 (if you did leave it to default in your CP: 10 post per page) - and the rest is shoptalk (as I do now), and well , yes it's Friday!

[Depth]

If I throw this beer can at someone it would be a missile.

 

Some propane and it would be a rocket, mmmm science.

[PeterP]

If I throw this beer can at someone it would be a missile.

 

Some propane and it would be a rocket, mmmm science.

As long you manage to jump on it after you did throw it...

(But there will be allot beer necessary to get usable results...- you shouldn't do this alone, only for safety reasons!!)

Picture of a ancient Prussian missile :

some moving pictures how this can be done:

 

 

See..., - no rocket motor is need to have a missile!

Edited May 11, 2012 by PeterP